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  • #3310

    Ernie Whalley
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    bluevalentine says:

    A few positives after the Arsenal defeat.
    Defence looked a lot better – the ‘chicken’ worked quite well.
    I thought Sun had a blinder again. Will the knockers please leave the lad alone.
    We have now got a real goalkeeper.
    Shuany is back to his best.
    Nico DOES care!
    Boss was very solid, don’t think I saw him give the ball away

    Neggys:
    Sinclair is still b.useless
    Macwaveyerarmsaboutaman looked ineffectual as ever
    Nico out for 3 games

    I can see no reason why we shouldn’t stuff Spurs.

  • #5644

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Bluevalentine says

    “I’m hoarse.
    Had a crap day at work, our sales manager who is a mate and a fantastic guy and who’s done a great job for F&W is going back to NZ. He sprung this on me at 5.45.
    After a ‘fish supper’ (verra Dumfries, that) I meandered up to the tennis club to watch the match. At half time I wondered wtf am I doing here. I was mentally composing my farewell to City and going home to look for the old QotS shirt.
    4 goals and five brandies later….
    Jon Macken, sorry I ever doubted you. Anyone who slags Dizzy can shut the f*ck up… “
    Funny old life.

  • #5645

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    bluevalentine sez

    “further to my first post we now have TWO goalkeepers”
    well done Arni Arni

  • #5646

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi BlueVal
    Just a quick note to say that I am still high from last night!
    have top go out and see an inconsiderate (but rich) client!
    Will give more coherent thoughts tomorrow.
    Also have now posted to Jensen’s Left, FFC and Aussie Blue with this post details. Hope they make it. Jase and Timmy email addresses are defunct.

  • #5647

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Blimey BlueVal. its a long tiome since I have been a Junior Member of anything!!

  • #5648

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Dougie has emailed me a new website address but it replies Error 502 broken server.
    Will let you know when it is up and running.
    Alph

  • #5649

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Owing to the S.S.Izzett sinking – torpedoed by Deansgate Central?, I’ve opened this temporary thread where the lads can keep in touch

  • #5650

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Great stuff BlueVal, we may be needing this long term, still no response from Dougie so we may be persona non grata big stylie!
    I will circulate the link to the email addresses I know and ask them to do the same. Maybe we can devise wys of ‘advertising’ it using an MUEN campaign? Suggestions from the admiral would be helpful!

    Speak to you soon old pal.

    Alph

  • #5651

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    What’s going on?
    Read something about a Bisch transfer ‘breaking down’. Has he had the nod from Psycho do you think?
    I wouldn’t sell anyone until we see what SP intends to do with the squad. With the possible exception of
    a) Mills
    b) we got a mega – and I mean MEGA – offer for Shauny.
    Can’t wait for the Spurs game – not too depressed if we get stuffed as long as it’s interesting, footballing, thought-provoking stuffed.
    For a City fan I think predictability is a bigger fear than lack of success.

  • #5652

    ICSL
    Participant

    Hello….hope this works. Stress levels high – unable to cope with IZZET deficiency syndrome. Thanks Alph if I manage to touch base…:)

  • #5653

    ICSL
    Participant

    Waaaaheeeeeeeeey!!! 😀 😀 😀

    Back later.:cool:

  • #5654

    TUBI
    Participant

    Well well well, what the flip is going on then? saw the distress call on the MUEN site from vallers n thought i’d come along on the off chance.

    I’m assuming no one knows whats wrong with the forum then?

  • #5655

    Alphonso
    Participant

    BV, my understanding is that Bischoff is the reason that McCarthy was allowed to go. he was offered a month on loan at Hammers but turned it down in the hope of getting a run out from Psycho.

    By the way, Will Psycho have the balls to do things like that or will he take the view that he needs to grind out results to keep in the job?

    I had an excellent reply to that letter I sent to Wardle, signed by the CEO. I will give you the text of it when I get the time.

    Perhaps a letter to Wardle suggesting that Psycho should be encouraged to play the lads he thinks ready and suggesting that Psycho be told that a few points lost in games where this is happening wont affect his summer job prospects?

    I note that Blend has posted on MUEN giving his email to Izzeteers for an update. Gen Berko has posted asking for help. I have stuck one in on the Reyna link too BV so hopefully we are away. Jensen should be able to contact a few with luck, he found me and put me right last time it fell over!

    Alph

  • #5656

    Alphonso
    Participant

    No Tubs, we are in the dark but the troops are being rallyied.

    Wots all this ‘transport caff’ business?! You I can understand Tubs but Moi?

    I surely am very definitely ‘Gordon ruddy Blur’ and ‘Michelin XXX’ at the very least!

    All the best

    Alph

  • #5657

    TUBI
    Participant

    Its been a very long couple of days trying to get by without Uwe Rosler. Especially at work where i’ve recently been relying on the thread to keep my sanity.

    Is anyone else starting to think Doug may well have forgotten about the good ship izzet, and we’ve been drifting along captainless for the last year or so?

  • #5658

    TUBI
    Participant

    I thought i was going to go mad if i had to sit and read any more of the insane ramblings from some of the brainless idiots on the MUEN site. Really makes you appreciate a nice bit of izzet

  • #5659

    Calgary Blue
    Participant

    Phew ! Finally caught up with you boys. Thanks for the e-mail Alph. Gotta dash off to work now but will post later.

  • #5660

    Alphonso
    Participant

    The following quote came from Psycho on the MUEN after last night’s Stiffs win over Villa 2/0

    From the MUEN

    The stiffs beat Villa stiffs 2/0 last night on the MUEN was the following quote from Psycho

    Pearce was happy with the Reserves’ performance, although he admitted the match had been a “bit scrappy”. He added: “All the young players have an opportunity to break into the first team. We’ve got a lot of talented lads, so it’s up to them to force their way in.”

    Mikkel Bischoff, who yesterday turned down a loan move to West Ham United in a bid to further his first team chances since Kevin Keegan’s departure, figured at the heart of the home side’s defence on a blustery night at the Regional Athletics Arena.

    The Danish centre-back, who has been on loan to Wolves this season until a shoulder injury saw him return early, was solid at the heart of City’s defence and Pearce believes the young star has a “good chance” of becoming a regular.

    “Mikkel is a good young player. He’s got every chance of getting in the first team,” added Pearce. “Nedum (Onuoha) is another good p layer who has a chance (in the defence).”

    Alph

  • #5661

    TUBI
    Participant

    This is also taken from the MUEN site

    FORMER Ajax coach Co Adriaanse has expressed his interest the Manchester City manager’s job, claiming a move to England would be “superb”.

    Adriaanse, currently boss at AZ Alkmaar and respected as one of the greatest tacticians in the game, has been tipped for the post by the Dutch press.

    And the 57-year-old has revealed he is interested in the vacant Blues hotseat after being linked with the job.

    “I have seen the reports on TV, but there has been no contact,” he told Dutch website voetballonline.nl.

    “They are, however, a big club and to work in Britain would be superb.”

    Adriaanse has guided unfashionable club AZ to second in the Dutch Eredivisie – breaking the traditional stranglehold of PSV Eindhoven, Ajax and Feyenoord – and they are challenging PSV for the title.

    The coach’s contract with AZ expires at the end of this season, and Adriaanse has already indicated he will move on.

    “My challenge is abroad. I love attacking football. I walways try to playin the half of the opponent and I want to try to prove myself and that I can also bring my philosophy abroad,” he told Sky Sports.

    “So I think I can also succeed abroad.”

    Interesting..

  • #5662

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Good to see you all here, guys. Any sightings of Streak, BB, Berko, Jensen??

    ps Don’t forget to click on the google ads from time-oi-time!

    Tubi I agree 100% with your remarks on the MANUEN threads

  • #5663

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Phew, got me real name back!

    I can’t wait to see Psycho’s line-up for Spurs.
    Are we on telly?

  • #5664

    Calgary Blue
    Participant

    Tubi – that’s quite an interesting story – if it is to be believed. I haven’t heard anything about this geezer apart from what you posted. Right now the front runners seem to be either Psycho or Dowie and as much as I want to see SP do well, I’m not sure he’s the man for the job, just yet. As for ID, well, I know he’s well liked in some circles but I’m unconvinced about his ability. I hope he can prove me wrong.

    Blue Val – thanks for establishing this link for us. I don’t know where I’d be without my daily dose of Izzet. Hopefully the General and the rest of the troops can find us soon and get the party going again.

  • #5665

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Crickey, I asked the bloke at the border “Is this heaven ?”

    “No” he replied “It’s Izzet”

    I’m home. Bloody marvellous. Alph, you’re a latter day saint mate. Thanks for the airlift out of there. Those moron, bogus colonials on the DC boards were addling my mind with their banalities.

    Can you believe that there are supposed city fans that post there that actually believe in the reincarnation of the Walford One. I know Easter’s coming up, but for goodness sake!!!!

    Anyway it’s great to be back. Does anyone have any idea what happened ?? Is this a permenant billet ? What counter measures are in place to retreive the others ? Does anyone sense a conspiracy theory. I never got a reply from Doug ? Is there a Doug ?

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5666

    TUBI
    Participant

    Hoy there Berko. Welcome back.

    There WAS a doug, but whether or not there still IS a doug is another question all together.

    Personally i think he’s been kidnapped by the rags over at DC and is currently being held in a cold dark cellar with posters of Eric Cantona and Paul Parker in blue socks on the walls.

    You cannot supress the Izzet. Many have tried….all have failed.

  • #5667

    TUBI
    Participant

    by the way, how did alph manage to secure “soup kitchen”? is this worked on a ranking system a la “senior BVer”? or is it simply jovialities by mr big boss admin man himself?

  • #5668

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Tubs – I’ve got that ‘just arrived at my holdiay hotel and don’t know where anything is’ feeling. I wonder what the regular forkers and corkers make of this. I suppose discussion of Onuaha v. Mills, Walford in or out etc. is as odd to them as the relative merits of a lobster thermidor or an Israeli Baron Hertzog ’91 may be to me.

    One promise I’ve made to myself is not to be drawn into the new management speculation until Psycho has been given a chance. I think that succeed or fail in the mid term he deserves the support of all not least this highly mobile brigade.

    Long Live Psysho !! Long Live the BRA !!

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5669

    Calgary Blue
    Participant

    And on the same subject, how did Blue Val get French Provincial Bistro. With all due respect to the Caff, the bistro sounds more like it. Owners rights ?

  • #5670

    Alphonso
    Participant

    ‘Transport Caff’ indeed.

    Well, nice to have you back Berko.

    I can catch up with Streaky at the next home game coz I know where he sits and maybe before coz I recognised his style and profile on another site and reckon I know his monicker.

    Jensen I have emailed and hope him to be around soon. I will get around to FFC later today.

    That’s my lot. Jase’s email is returning unknown, nobody knows bellboys, but the irascible young sod will find us if he wants to, he’s clever that one and would be sadly and pessimistically missed.

    Jensen is a’ big hope’ in that he is the one most likely to have other email addresses.

    All for now.
    Time for my lobster thermidor, a bottle of rather nice 1991 Israeli plonk that BlueVal sent me and then my afternoon siesta .

    Alph

  • #5671

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    I’m getting the hang of how the hacks at DC work now. They invent a story; today it’s the lastest target for the gaffer’s job – bloody Paul Jewell !! Then they submit some comments in the guise of a few half hearted and untraceable toadies, spice it up with some counterpoint from some equally bogus yanks and bingo, they have a virtual debate. Result – demoralisation for all concerned. MUEN win again.

    Well I refuse to lay down and tolerate what at best is the usual comatose journalism from a few unqualified cretins and at worst the deliberate attempt by a bunch of red sympathisers to stir up the pot in a crude attempt to make mischief.

    Below is a post which may appear if they feel like in the Jewell section;

    Gentlemen – I applaud your efforts to rally around the flag and support the Pearce cause (or not as the case may be). But I implore the true city fans here to note the bigger picture. As the days and weeks go by we will be linked with every itinerant lower league boss, former player, foreign mercenary and ner – do – well that the media decides upon. The purpose will be to de-stabalise, de-moralise and undermine the staus quo. There will be not the merest shred of evidence to support the “City eye….” stories yet they will gain significant column inches in an attempt to create mischief. Certain posts will attempt to engage in reasoned debate on the merits or otherwise on the latest pseudo specualtions and this will all play into the hands of the coniving journos. When SP has had 4 or 5 games at the helm we will be in a position to make a judgement. Until such time we should let the club lead the unfolding of this story and not the media.

    When the BRA is fully re-assembled I sense that the time will be right to rejoin hostilities with the oafs at DC.

    Are we still Izzeters or are we Forkncorkers? The latter creates too many unsettling conotations of the vile Irishman with our neighbours.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5672

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Berko, I’m fork’n lots of things but fork’n cork, I don’t think so, much as I am prepared to grovel to the saintly BlueVal for rescuing us from ether obscurity!

    As for ‘Staus Quo’, is he another bloody foreigner after Psycho’s job?

    I really hooted at the Psycho part of the club news conference. After Wardle had finished saying he had the job until they reviewed it in the summer, Psycho ups and says he is the manager and will remain so for some years or until some bastard wrestles it away from him. That’s my sort of guy!

    He also said that if you’re good enough you’re old enough or young enough as the case may be. I like that too. He has some pretty rubbish legacy amongst his playing staff but every new manager does. He has a heck of a lot less dead wood than Joe inherited!!! He might also get some of them playing a bit? One example is David Sommeil who looked good when he first came and then had a long lasting nightmare. Against Trotters, playing OOP, he looked fine to me. If Reyna could remain fit and Sinclair get a bit of form back they would be good squad players. An old Royal Navy saying is, ‘New Ship, New Cap Tallies’. When you change ship you put a new name on your hat and its a clean slate. I would suggest that we agree to do this for the first team squad?

    They say that the exception proves every rule and at this point I would say…..Macca……!

    I don’t want him to play for us again unless we only have 11 fit players and he is one of the, and the tea lady has piles. Please Macca, just go in the summer, with your bag of loot and leave us alone. I don’t think him a bad lad, it didnt work……end of story.

    CAMPAIGNING

    BlueVal needs to lead us on this one, he has the best idea of how these things work but let me put a point:

    1. Psycho is under presure to deliver to keep the job and has a much stronger incentive than KK to stick to the oldies ‘been there done that’ and ‘safety first’ process.
    2. We want him to play the youngsters who he feels are good enough and he has said that he knows more about the Academy than anyone at the club other than Jim Cassell.
    3. I think that the board needs to understand that the fans will suffer a few dissappointing results, (if that were to happen) to see the post Spurs games used to establish young talent and that they should ensure that Psycho understands that it isn’t only results (in terms of points gained) that he will be judged on but how much stronger our squad is at the end of the season as a result of his management, coaching, innovation, selection, tactics and all round leadership.
    4. I dont think Psycho will leave the youth unplayed and be conservative for jobsworth reasons anyway, but some pro-active support from the troops?

    BVal always counsells that we have an achievable target like getting a story of editorial printed that we could have written. Although we have fun winding up the MUEN site, I think BVal is absolutely right in this and that we should keep powder dry for the real and important issues.

    I suggest that the rear Admiral of the Blue, Valentine take charge of this latest turn of events whilst the battered but defiant General Berko recuperates in a nicely appointed Cordon Bleu. Michelin *** Auberge.

    Discuss

    Alphonso

  • #5673

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Ernie

    Please explain to us what we need to do to help you on the management/funding of this site. You mentioned ‘googling’ things???

    If there are costs I will happily throw a contribution into the pot, I can send the ‘Trained Killer’ over there to ‘waste’ any journalistic enemies you have for instance……. nod, nod…..wink, wink… consider it done, say no more squire!

    Alph

  • #5674

    Alphonso
    Participant

    By the way TUB’s I am singularly underwhelmed by achieving ‘Soup kitchen’.

    The Highly Respected Editor in Chief of Food and Wine Ireland will be informed ASAP that more endangered species and well hung mammals, complemented by the finest of aged viniculture has passed through this venerable gullet and iron cast digestive system than could have ever been achieved in a ‘Soup Kitchen’.

    Even one run by BlueVal!

    Harrummphhh!!

    Alph

  • #5675

    TUBI
    Participant

    Taken from MUEN

    BEN Thatcher, Nedum Onuoha and Jon Macken have all shrugged off injury problems to put themselves in contention for Stuart Pearce’s first game as manager against Spurs – but Steve McManaman will miss out.

    The former Real Madrid midfielder is sidelined with a calf strain and will not feature at White Hart Lane.

    Such a shame. Just when poor old macca was starting to find some form :rolleyes:

    Lets all pray for a speedy recovery from the old chap, and keep him in our thoughts during the match on saturday

  • #5676

    ICSL
    Participant

    Good to see (read?) you all (those that have made it this far!) and let’s hope the others touch base soon….

    I like the noises SP has made thus far – let’s hope he gets his managerial career at CITY off to a flyer against SPURS. Unlike most of the MUEN posters, I don’t think that Stuart will make that many changes for his first game in charge and I really can’t see him starting BWP. I even think that he will leave Nedum on the bench and play a 4-4-1-1- formation as we are AWAY. This is the team I think he will play …

    ………………………………..JAMES………………………
    …..MILLS………..DUNNE………….DISTIN…………..THATCHER…
    …..CROFT………BARTON…….REYNA/BOSVELT……MUSAMPA…
    ……………………………SIBIERSKI……………………………………..
    …………………………….FOWLER……………………………………….

    Subs:- Weaver, BWP, Onouha, Reyna/Bosvelt, Jordan.

    Not sure where that leaves MACKEN/FLOOD…..but still…..

    We have a chance here guys – Spurs may be deflated after being knocked out by Newcastle in the F.A.Cup and then losing to Charlton in the Prem. Now’s your chance, Stuart!!!!!!:)

  • #5677

    ICSL
    Participant

    By the way, why is the clock on here over 20 minutes fast????

    😀 😎 :p 😀

    (The smilies might help to reel BellBoy in…)

  • #5678

    Alphonso
    Participant

    post on this one chaps.

    http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchestercity/comments/view.html?story_id=151724

    it is about the pressure on Pearce to get results and points.

    ICSL
    Not much wrong with that team mate, but I think Thatcher might be injured? I’d play Bozzer to start. I dont think this is a game for experimenting and if it goes well a couple of the young players should then get 20 minutes.

    Flood will be OK but I feel that Croft needs to be given a chance now and be encouraged. Flood is a right winger. Both SWP and Croft can play a very good IR game and when Shuany goes we sure will need both of those talented lads.

    Once Psycho has a couple of games under his belt I would like to see him play BWP for 90 minutes (60 with Fowler and 30 with Macken). I would like to see a midfield in a game with Flood at OR and Croft at IR.

    Alph.

  • #5679

    Jensen
    Participant

    Hello Chaps!

    Nice to be here. Thanks to Blueval for the temporary accomodation, and to Alph for inviting me to the party. Hope we manage to get hold of all the ‘regulars’. I’ll keep my ears low to the ground.

    JLF.

  • #5680

    TUBI
    Participant

    I do believe Maggie is injured, so i would expect jordan to start.

    Have to say SP talks a hell of a lot of sense. He’s actually making me start to feel pretty confident.

    Just hope when it comes down to it, the team can deliver.

  • #5681

    TUBI
    Participant

    alrighty there jenners. welcome to the izzet halfway home.

    Starting to fill up a little now

  • #5682

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    What ho Jenners!!

    Welcome home.

    Not sure what our long term future holds but I think that Alph and some of our more technically adroit chums may have some ideas on this one. As an old technophobe I’ve taken a watching brief from my bathchair on top of the hill.

    I pretty much agree with the above comments about Psycho’s first couple of team selections. If he made wholesale changes and we lost he’d be branded foolhardy and rash. His inexperience would be cited and would ultimately precipitate a renewed round of specualtion from the pretend ex-pats and cretinous hacks on the boards at DC. I see him easing certain key players into key roles over the next 3 or 4 games. I think that the winners will be Onuaha, Croft and BWP and the losers will be Mills, Sibbers, Macken, Mcmnmnmnmn and Reyna. I can’t imagine that Walford will feature at all. I’m also not too confident for the Hobbit. I just think that Psycho will look for all his passion and commitment but in a more robust package.

    Also I have a sneaking feeling about Weaver over James.

    Anyway good luck to the man. I think a 1-1er might be enough to get him up and running.

    As H. Bogart would have said “We’ll always have Izzet”

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5683

    Alphonso
    Participant

    TUBI you’re a star my man..
    This has to be you.

    From the MUEN…………

    Mary you are out of line. It’s not just you Manchester fans who keep the club going. We do buy the merchandise to help out you know. Weatherwise I would prefer sunny Malta anytime. I would only like to live in Manchester or close for football reasons. You’re very much like a rat, once cornered, you go berserk. T’ultimate bl’instrument – the collateral would be the club itself. Abramovich put all the money on the table and Glazer is not. Simple really. That is why the fans will pay dearly for it.
    RAY, Malta
    17/02/2005 at 19:20



    Eric The red its far more important what people say,not how they spell it,I always thought Canada to be cold full of anti English and very boring. Manchester for me is the best place there is you must be a real sad person that you have to get on a United site half way across the world.
    Mary, Sale
    16/02/2005 at 13:16



    It’s very easy for fans to dismiss opposing views, as mindless, anti-united work. I have no particular feelings regards to both sides, but I want the best for United. I think the Glazier takeover would usher in a new era, of what I belive to be a static and stagnant era for the club. Ferguson (legend) is getting on, and he doesn’t seem to have the drive and determination that he once had. We still rely heavily on the old guard, and although we have a few good youngsters coming through, I don’t think out squads compare well with the gunners or Chelsea. I want the best for our club, and mindless anti-glazer campaigns seem to lack substance and seem to be just attemting to make a name for anti-fans. We need dialogue between both poles of the debate, not minless slagging between both camps. No one has proved to me that Glazer would have a negative effect on the club. He choses to borrow money, simple economics eh. He has collateral, what’s the problem?
    t’ultimate bl’instrument, Portsmouth
    16/02/2005 at 12:26

  • #5684

    Alphonso
    Participant
  • #5685

    ICSL
    Participant

    THIS HAS TO BE BELLBOY!!!! Look at the name of the dog!

    From the MUEN Site:-

    Stu, lucky for you to be able to buy shares and have a say in controling the club. I only have my pension, being invalided out of Mather and Platt back in Thatchers time and its hard enoguh to buy milk and food for me and Bellbuoy my dog no money left for shares or owt like that. Still I manage and get to watch the Reds on my nephew Andys TV of a saturday. I’m not complaining. I went to WEmbley with United as long ago as 1957 (would you believe) and I’ve watched us win the European Cup. Ive no faith in tryants like the curent regime especially them two Irish what tried say Mr Ferguson didnt own there horse. But we have to move with the times and wile I dont like Yanks very much I think Mister Glazer may be a better bet than the Irish (not being racist). America is a bigger country than Ireland and richer.
    Red Harris, Eg Moston Machester
    15/02/2005 at 22:46

    By the way, Blue Val – I really don’t know what has happened to my manners nowadays! MANY THANKS for the temporary accomodation…

  • #5686

    ICSL
    Participant

    Good points about the players Alph but I’m not convinced that Flood is ready for a start yet – his confidence seems to have been affected by the way he was treated by KK. Croft has to be the better option but Flood can come on as Substitute to get him motoring again. You guys are correct – Thatcher IS injured, so that puts Jordan in, I would assume, unless he decides to play Onouha there (but I don’t think he will, because that would send out the wrong signal to Jordan) – other than that, I think my guess at Psycho’s 1st team & formation will be pretty accurate (I’m modest, aren’t I? :p 😀 )

    Jordan’s elevation into the team therefore allows Flood to be on the bench now too….now how do I find a space on the bench for Macken, Sommeil or Bischoff, not to mention Ireland?????

  • #5687

    ICSL
    Participant

    One day my memory will come back…I just can’t remember where I left it…

    Welcome back, Jenners – good to see you.

    Hilarious posts on MUEN, Tubi and the rest of you. Class acts.:D

    (By the way, keep your eyes peeled for posts from notorious pundits such as ‘The Truth’ from Denton and ‘Muppets Galore’ from Olde Trafford….they help me to rein in the split personalities… :p )

  • #5688

    ICSL
    Participant

    Yes Yes, I know I’m hogging the limelight this fine morning 🙂

    Thought the hairs on the back of your necks might react in the same way mine did upon reading STAR MAN Danny ******* MILLS’ latest offering – our intelligent full back…

    ‘…has welcomed the departure of Kevin Keegan and claimed the former Manchester City boss’ lack of enthusiasm was filtering into the dressing room. The combative full-back is never one to hold back his opinions and on the eve of Stuart Pearce’s first match in charge at Tottenham, has opened the lid on the frustrations of life under Keegan.

    After joining City on a four-year contract from Leeds last summer, Mills had been expecting to help the Blues push for a top-six spot…’

    I’M NOT EVEN COPYING THE REST OF HIS GARBAGE…basically, he is not fit to play for City and the sooner he goes, the better, as far as I am concerned. You MUPPET, Mills – YOU are one of the biggest reasons why we are not faring better in the Prem!!!! Why don’t you just shut the **** up and start focusing on the job you are paid to do??? It’s only because of Keegan that you are here…

    As you can see, I do not like Mills – I had better go before I fill the screen with expletives….

    OH YES…hope City do the business today.

    🙂 🙂

  • #5689

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I reckon Red Harris is the mighty Captain Dunkirk in disuise Icy, the great style in the spelling mistakes and the tasty little ‘quotes’, all shout ‘wordsmith’ to me!

    Poor old Ned. Never saw it but heard it described. The good thing would seem to be that he kept his head up and never moped about it. I saw the Reyna goal, a bit of class from Ned, Bart, Robbie and the Yank. From the 2nd half highlights it looked as though we deserved a point at least. Pearce’s first post match IV was sensible. I hope that he keeps faith with the back four he played today for the rest of the season. Thatcher will go back to London if he gets the chance and the more chances that Jordan and Ned get this season the better. If Mills is benched then he too might look elsewhere and that would be a good thing. With Sun back next season do we need Mills or anyone else as a RB priority? I would have thought that a permanent LW and a decent striker would take priority. Macken and Sibierski can both do a job of sorts but we would be in pooh pooh avenue if Fowler were to be injured. Bradley might make the grade, dont know yet, but if he does it will be a couple of years before he has mastered the craft and strengthened up.

    I though Joey looked to have stepped up a level yesterday. Still alot of room for improvement but I am getting to be very hopeful (if not quite as hopeful as Berkoz!)

    Musampa had a good 2nd half. Do I detect that he is starting to get whinged about on the MUEN comment pages? I think he’s alright, not a superstar but definely better than any other option we have.

    Mills and James should shut their fat mouths off the field.

    Alph

  • #5690

    Blend
    Participant

    Oi, why’s TUBI getting all the credit for my geninus eh

  • #5691

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by TUBI
    by the way, how did alph manage to secure “soup kitchen”? is this worked on a ranking system a la “senior BVer”? or is it simply jovialities by mr big boss admin man himself?

    Got it, Tubs. It’s based on a posting system – n posts gets you to Pizza Joint and so on. But I can’t resist playing god occasionally… hence Alph’s demotion – that’ll teach the bugger to moan about his (lack of) status

    Not sure whether it’s a permanent billet, Berko. I’ve got no objections, though it must make strange reading for my regular visitors! I’ll check with my site guru and overlord to see if it causes any complications.
    Meanwhile enjoy your stay and welcome.
    IZZET LIVES!!!

    ps Just noticed that those clever beggars from Google have planted 2 ads for Rags tickets on the page – it’s al done by mirrors and technology. Initial thought was to tell them to gtf out of there but then I considered… no, let’s click on the Ragads, eventually my landlords will get a cheque from Google and will have boundless goodwill for yours truly. And the Rags will have made a contribution to Izzet’s longevity, tee hee!

    Alph – demotion is only a state of mind old son, and temporary as we Izzeters know! Anyhow, for being a clever sod and spotting that Red Harris (renegade cousin of Reg Harris of Byker) is indeed the good Captain in disguise I’m going to find you a designation worthy of your great gastro-capacity. BTW, did you like Red’s address “E.G Moston”? I mean, how else would yer average Rag respond to an invitation to offer up a place of residence “e.g.Moston”?!!

    ps I’ve put up an explanation on the site – under a thread “Uwe Rosler’s grandad – Izzet- Izzeters – with the dual purpose of attracting any of the old gang who might Google “Izzeter”.
    Whither Bell Boy? – missin’ ya already!
    Likewise Streak, anybody got an e-mail address?

    Ooops just had a thought, lads. Bell Boy and Doug, they aren’t one and the same are they????

  • #5692

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Couple of bits of Psychobabble after the spurs game

    1. One or two were struggling in the last fifteen minutes
    2. I didn’t see the Barton thingy

    If this means
    1. Extra training for this bloody lot come Monday
    2. If you get whacked, sort it, don’t come moaning to me

    the boy Psycho has made a bright start, a refreshing lack of Keeganballs here! Maybe no need for a continental professor like Staus Quo!

  • #5693

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Hhmmmm. I recall a post on the boards of the former parish of Izzet from our Andalucian ex pat colleague. The content was casting doubt upon the veracity of the rightful claims of the FEC to the armband.

    May I offer the performance of our combative youngster as evidence to the contrary.

    When one thinks of the defining spirit of a team one thinks of the blood drenched forms of messers Butcher, Ince and Wright, 3 of the hardiest lions of England.

    Does Psycho need look any further for a personification of his own spirit on the field and do we need to look any further for proof of the passion and commitment to the blue cause that is re-born in the embodiment of J.Barton esq. ?

    Still, shame about the result…..

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5694

    TUBI
    Participant

    mornin’ folks. Been a long and very blurry weekend.

    As a result not only did i miss the extended highlights of the game, but i barely know what happened. Only seen the Spuds winner.

    Everyone having fun Rag baiting?

  • #5695

    Blend
    Participant

    Blue Val, there is certainly little wrong with a well tooled Hamburgher.

    I agree with your comments re Psycho.

    I thought that he sent out the right signals and that Joey showed maturity both on and off the pitch.

    Re: the site. What would the implications be of asking your site landlords to set us up. Would it be a ‘bra and jambe’ job?

    It’s great to have this home but your ‘gastro nerds’ might well not relate to us long term?

    Also your idea re finding a way to let old hands ‘google’ us is good.

    Ta mate

    Alph

    Oh by the way BlueVal, the ‘trained killer’ took bronze in the British national university comp Saturday and was the top British national under the qualifying age. All that training in Dublin seems to have paid off!

  • #5696

    TUBI
    Participant

    You really must learn to log blend out before you post alph.

    Technology eh?

    Left any phones on top of cars lately?

  • #5697

    Blend
    Participant

    No Tubs, the little ***** should learn to log himself out when using MY computer!!

    Alph

  • #5698

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Good news, I’ve found Streaky so we will get some good sense back on here again soon!

    That makes bellboy the next target. I wonder if that speculation from BV was right? Could bellboy be Dougie?

    Alph

  • #5699

    Jensen
    Participant

    Lots of ‘stories’ this morning about SWP’s possible summer departure, and the reduction of City’s £62M debt. Well, am I just not reading this correctly, or has Nico’s sale not made any inroads whatsoever into that debt? Despite the result, I’m very impressed with SP so far. It must be very difficult to go about your daily duties while all and sundry are talking about who’s going to come in to replace you in the summer. I’d say that if we finish the season with a flurry, lets give him a twelve month deal and tell him to get on with it.

    JLF

  • #5700

    Jensen
    Participant

    By the way, does the address wwwadmin@cccljuniors.org.uk mean anything to anyone? I’ve managed to find this address (don’t ask how!) whilst searching various “Blueview” links and have mailed it to see if I get a response. I’ll let you all know if I here anything. Meanwhile, just in case we suffer another crash, my email is s.elliott@doeflex-vitapol.co.uk. Alph has it, and anybody else is welcome to use it – just in case!!

    JLF

  • #5701

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Well here I am – Alph managed to locate me by going through the “Talkincity” contributors list apparently, quite an effort I’d say. Thanks to Blueval for putting us up. Soon as I saw the messages I knew it was bad news, looks like the plug got pulled. I have bluealf’s email so I’ll pass this onto him. I’m over in the IoM quite soon and going to pop in to Port Erin so I’ll pass it on to IoM as well. I was over in HamsterJam from Thursday to Sunday so I only caught the rather brief highlights. Didn’t look too bad but the lack of pace was revealed yet again. I liked the way JB and SP handled the incident with Otouba – is his first name really spelt that way Timothee ? – and he’s probably going to get a three game ban.

    I take a more relaxed view of Mills and James’s comments. They are both experienced players and it’s clear from things that have come out over the last nine months or so that they regarded the training regime and preparation for games as a total joke and seriously unproffessional. The fact that they are bothered enough to raise a stink about it is a good sign for me and their having to go to the press shows how far the rot had gone under KK. Mills made some very critical comments about the training soon after he came which were meant to be private but got picked up by the MuEN while James was the key figure in the “players’ revolt” which played a key part in us avoiding the drop last year. I know that there were complaints from the players about the amount of time they were being given off this year as well.

    Good news from the stiffs btw, we did Villa 2-0 last week and that puts us 3 points behind the leaders (rags) with a game in hand (against Wolfs). We still have to play the rags at home so we have a great chance to win that league – Blackburn are the other team with a real chance.

  • #5702

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Welcome home Streaky.

    It really is starting to feel like the old place again. I hope that the gastronomers and viniculturalists remain tolerant of us until the boys in Q dept. decide our long terms fate.

    Those morons at DC have little to occupy themselves with today and so have regurgutated the “(insert any club you fancy) in summer swoop for SWP ?!??” story. I’m not sure which is more tedious; the contrived stories, the Gary Owen / Peter Barnes axis of illiteracy or the subsequent bogus comments from Ernie, Cletus and Goober from Pigsknuckle Arkansas.

    It all gets a bit tiresome when there’s nowt left in the season other than the mirthsome rag-baiting.

    When can I become a swanky, if overpriced bistro in the ‘burbs.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5703

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Just read the comments from Psycho on Skysports following the injury to Barton which necessitated the FEC having 8 stiches to his head.

    Neither the boss nor the FEC are anxious to pursue the matter,preferring to let the heat out of ther situation. But it was SP’s following comment that typifies the man.

    “He’ll (Barton) be fine. We’ve all be headbuttd in the face once in our lives haven’t we ?”

    ..and so say all of us no doubt.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5704

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Berkozboy
    I’m not sure which is more tedious; the contrived stories, the Gary Owen / Peter Barnes axis of illiteracy or the subsequent bogus comments from Ernie, Cletus and Goober from Pigsknuckle Arkansas.

    Nothing bogus about Ernie from Virginia alas.
    I’d like to issue the disclaimer that bluevalentine’s alter ego is NOT Ernie from Virginia.
    I first ran across this character in my McVittie days. He is a hopelesssly cockeyed and cockbrained optimist called, if I remember rightly, Ernie Barrow, who would make Mr Micawber sound like a misanthropic ice cream peddler at the North Pole. Yer man is quite mad, ending all his little ray of sunshine posts with a euphoric “Come on you Blues!”
    Deffo not Izzet material.

    Streak, welcome back dear friend. Agree utterly about Lord Jim and BOLB mouthing off about Keggy’s Kingdom where training seems to have been rooted in the Manchester YMCA RFC philosophy circa 1963, i.e. “2 laps of the pitch, 20 press-ups, a game of tick-and-pass then we piss off to the Horse & Jockey”

  • #5705

    Cyprien Ragueneau
    Participant

    Pardon this interloper on your most interesting thread. I am an occasional contributor to forkncork.
    Haven’t been to a football match since 1975 when I got badly beaten up by a bunch of skinheads at Leeds – oddly enough I was with some friends supporting Manchester City (I was studying at Owens at the time) and we were trying to mind our own business.
    Is the food at football grounds as bad as ever? Which ground, gentlemen, in your opinion has the best food today?

  • #5706

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi Cypo,

    Forgive me if I appear a little suspicious but now, I have to ask myself, am I buying that?!

    I mean, shades of ‘Kippo’ our late, lost Irish founder, and ‘Rag’ our affectionate ‘dim’ inutive for followers of the Manure?

    You see, those of us who have learned to know and love Ernie, over recent years, have a healthy regard for his ‘wordsmanship’ and keep a weather eye out for his wicked sense of humour!

    Now, if you are real, you are probably wondering what I’m rambling on about but anything goes on this thread. We are a select collection of ManCity supporters from near and wide who have been made homeless and given temporary shelter by Ernie in return for doing the washing up and a case of Latour ’85.

    If I remember my literature (and I usually dont, well not accurately anyway), wasn’t there a pastry chef called Ragueneau who swapped his pastries for poems and with your Christian name, shouldn’t you be a Saints supporter?

    Regards your question, the overpriced food at football grounds is either bland disgusting or both. Regarding Leeds, if you can still masticate after the traditional kicking that they give visitors, they have some good hot beef and hot pork roll stands and the Delia’s of Norwich knock out decent pies. The Pie Eaters of Wigan couldn’t recognise a decent pie if it bit their bum. They are all lard arses with only a passing acquaintance with the English language. I tend to rely on a flask of home made soup and a kit-kat!

    I have a mind’s eye picture of you as a Quebecoise raconteur and wit with a groaning table and well stocked cellar. I may come and visit you! Anyway, I hope you are real, and wish you all the very best. I didn’t become a conservative 19 stone or so without learning a bit about eating and drinking and then practicing very hard!

    Alph

  • #5707

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Dammit Berko! I’ve just noticed you’ve been relegated in status. Mind you, you might think that a promotion!

    I aspire to ‘Venetan Ristorante’, possibly looking out on the Piazza in Verona, just opposite the Palacio of the Sindaco. A delicate Rissotino with Gambellara Superiore, Bacalla ala Vincentina with Bianco di Custoza, a nice slab of skirt of beef braised on a bed of onions and served with Tuscan oil and a glass or 6 of Amarone, formaggio another glass or six of Amarone, a double espresso and Grappa di Recioto di Valpolicella!

    Oh well, time for me toast and marmite and better get some work done!

    Alph

  • #5708

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Alph, you are being overtaken by post DC paranoia! Cypriano’s real enough, or at least he was, when I unmasked him at a wine tasting at The Wicklow Arms in Delgany, Co Wicklow a few years ago.
    Funnily enough the same tasting also revealed the identity of The Trinity Ladies who used to write incognito for Feud & Whine Magazine.
    He’s another of the ex-restaurateurs who haunt forkncork from time to time. If memory serves me right he hails originally from East Anglia – though whether a Delia or a Tractor Boy I am unsure and did indeed study at Man U, err…sorry…Manchester University.
    You are right about the name. C.R. was a Parisian pastrychef who nearly went bankrupt swapping too many pies for poems, then shut up shop and ran off to join Moliere’s troupe of actors. He was crap of course, never progressing beyond spear carrier or the guy who comes in saying “My liege, the peasants are revolting!” When he died he left a huge legacy of unpublished plays and poems. Bit of a man after my own heart, really, except I’d prefer mine to be published in my lifetime and get rich.
    If I remember rightly, the character CR appears in a cameo role in Cyrano de Bergerac (the French for “Mike Summerbee”)
    Back in my youth, summer of ’58 and all that you could get very decent steak and kidney pies at Bristol City, also pickled eggs supplied by my cousins who had the concession.Presumably these potentially aerodynamic missiles were outlawed in the violent ’70s.

  • #5709

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Alph – as ever you take the rather criptic high road and leave the rather doltish and bludgeoning approach to the less adroit.

    It is obvious that in adopting his nom de guerre ‘Cypers’ knew that it could only imply something fishy to the less initiated and thus the game would be afoot.

    However, in the interests of research I offer as my choice for the best pre-match scoff ever, the menu from the Shwarma stand at Afula bus station en route to a Maccabi Haifa UEFA home leg. With over 80 fillings to plonk in your pitta it is the best gob-full south of Shaktar Donetsk. Particularly recommended is the Fatoush salad, Malawach and extra Chariff sauce atop the hearty meat slices in a pitta as wide as Dunnie’s shorts.

    Apparently, and I am told this is completely true it features in a ‘Rough Guide’ as the best place to eat in the whole of the middle east if you’re on a budget.

    Crickey, I’m going native. I’ll be a forker before the day is out.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5710

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Blimey-Berko goes swanky!!!

    When I get to 20 I want to fulfill my dream of being Slatterys Patisserie on the Bury New Road – the Bettys of North Man. or a little slice of Otley in the ‘burbs.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5711

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Berkozboy

    However, in the interests of research I offer as my choice for the best pre-match scoff ever, the menu from the Shwarma stand at Afula bus station en route to a Maccabi Haifa UEFA home leg. With over 80 fillings to plonk in your pitta it is the best gob-full south of Shaktar Donetsk. Particularly recommended is the Fatoush salad, Malawach and extra Chariff sauce atop the hearty meat slices in a pitta as wide as Dunnie’s shorts.

    Berkoz, if we ever draw them in the Inter-toto I’m on for the trip. In fact I’ll drive the bus!

  • #5712

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Not much chance of a pork pie though!

  • #5713

    Jensen
    Participant

    Oh well, I remember when a guy by the name of Kevin was in charge and we used to talk about football. :rolleyes:

    Times change I suppose, so here goes:

    May I suggest the “Pie and a Pint” special offer at the City of Manchester Stadium. The above dish includes a lightly sparkling south Australian beverage, served slightly chilled. To compliment this tasty ‘lager’ is a dish of skewered chicken pieces in a balti sauce, enclosed in a delicious pastry casing.

    It certainly warms my cockles on a Sat’day.

    Jensen.

  • #5714

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Forgot to add I also remember Ernie Barrow, he’s one of those who is usually described as a “character”, Blueval’s description is spot on. There are truly some strange and wonderful people in the world of football fandom – I like it! I can see the press and DC (what a geat idea to name the MuEN’s HQ after the true belly of the beast) are getting ready for a whole summer of shitstirring and unfounded speculation. the scope for subversion is almost endless.

    Never eaten food at football grounds, gets in the way of drinking. In my experience the good food was to be found around the ground in various establishments. Now that’s something I do miss at COMS, what with nowt but a couple of burger vans selling God-knows-what-but-I-don’t-want-to-know around the ground.

  • #5715

    TUBI
    Participant

    There were a lot of very good chippys round maine road. You could always tell which ones were the best by the fact there was a queue 45 miles long, just to get a bag of chips and a pot of “curry sauce”

  • #5716

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Streak, you are right. The thing I’d miss most about Maine Road – even more than The Kippax – is the proximity to Rusholme’s curry mile – sikh kebab and a brace of samosas, just the job for warming up the vocal chords.

    Tottenham’s ground circa late 60s was always a great one for fish and chip availabilty – some really good ones

  • #5717

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    My very first trip to Maine Rd. was in 1968 and was a really dandy affair. Some bloke my dad – Berko snr.- knew got the use of a box and we went along to watch City play Huddersfield. At half time a waitress in black with a pinny came in with plates of hot sausages and pots of tea and we sat and watched with our coats off in early winter.

    As a boy of 6 I thought that was how you were supposed to watch football .

    The bangers were a treat and so was the footie. I think we won 1 – 0 with Franny scoring a late penalty which took forever to cross the boggy line.

    My Dad and his mates were reds but I was totally sold on the vision of some fat gutted striker, a brilliant No.8 that seemed to be untouchable and a mazy winger with a dodgey barnet

    But try telling the young master that ……and he won’t bloody believe you!!!!!

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5718

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    The curry mile must have lost a fair bit of trade with City moving. Trouble is I can’t imagine it paying to keep a restaurant on 19 busy days in the year plus the few cup games we have and Eastlands (or whatever you call it) doesn’t have enough regular demand yet. Should have enough to support a few decent chippies though, I’d say that’s an entrepreneurial opportunity of sorts. Best Indian restaurant by far in Manchester these days is a place called “Saffron” down at the town end of Cheetham Hill Road, it has proper Indian food and serves on a “eat all you want for £9” basis. Doesn’t have a license but you can bring drink in. I still miss the Plaza though, that was a truly legendary place the memory brings tears to my eyes as I think of what the food there did to my innards.

  • #5719

    Calgary Blue
    Participant

    My memories of pre and post match footie were the odd pie I used to indulge in when occasionally visiting Boundary Park. As I recall, they were rather tasty and somewhat spicy. Never did try ther food at Maine Road. Always seemd to either arrive late or got stuck in the middle of the Kippax and couldn’t be bothered to fight my way out.

    By contrast, I think truly the most awful ‘food’ I have ever had was when I went to an NFL game in Buffalo. I was working in Toronto for the week and a mate and I decided to stay over the weekend and head into New York to watch the Bills/Dolphins game. When it was over, ravenous for something to eat the only vendor still open was serving a dubious fare called ‘fried dough’. Essentially it was a pizza base, deep fried and covered in sugar. As we’d had nothing to eat for nearly twelve hours we decided it was Hobsons Choice so we got one each. It was the most disgusting thing I’ve ever put in my mouth (and it was up against some pretty stiff competition there). Four mouthfuls and your stomach swelled up like a barrage balloon and then you couldn’t eat for a day. And they have the nerve to criticise British food !

  • #5720

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Ever wondered why you hated the rags? Here’s a reminder.

    http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/m/man_utd/4373075.stm

    The arrogance of losers like Wenger and the rags is amazing.

  • #5721

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Count me in for the Haifa trip BV, I’ll bring the pork pies Streak, I know a little butcher that makes porkers to die for. Always best warm and freshly gelled, I think we can guarantee that there will be no evidence by the time the bus reaches the border.

    I’ll bringh along the ‘Trained Killer’ for protection and his mum to tuck him in at night.

    Got a feeling that ICSL will sit this one out though

    🙂

    Alph

  • #5722

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    My god, the Plaza… old men forget….
    I mind going into a new curry shop in Rusholme back in the 80s. The menu listed a dish called, if I remember rightly, “Gurda and kapoora”
    We asked the waiter what this dish consisted of and he said “I go ask chef”.
    He returned a minute later and said “Chef sorry, chef busy”.
    We ordered it anyway. It turned out to be a meat curry of sorts, quite tasty.
    After the meal we asked him to inquire of Chef as it was now 3.30 and chef would be les busy perhaps.
    The waiter returned and said “Chef said, is brains and bollocks”!

    SO THAT’S ALLRIGHT THEN No.6 in a Series

    On his departure, Kevin Keegan maintained that the squad he left is not far away from pushing into the top six, and keeping hold of Wright-Phillips whilst adding a replacement for Nicolas Anelka up front would leave the new manager with a bunch of players that are capable of kicking on in the Premiership.
    (MUEN Comment)

  • #5723

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Alphonso

    I’ll bring along the ‘Trained Killer’ for protection and his mum to tuck him in at night.

    🙂

    Alph

    So it won’t be a lads’ fortnight out then?

  • #5724

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    More claptrap from ‘Jeezuz!’ Gill on daily mail

    My good Azurri mate Rosso Arista has just posted on frigginredeejits
    Tune in tomorrow when the lazy bastards at DC have turned in to wind the clockwork computer

  • #5725

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Ok, OK, so I’ll tuck him in then!

    I didn’t realise it was a ‘fortnight’ BlueVal!

    Anyway, I have a cunning plan to find Kippo. I remembered his real name at 4am this morning, sad old git that I am. If I manage to track him down it’ll cost you a plate of curried ‘Brains ‘n’ bollocks’ BV.

    Alph

  • #5726

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Get Bell Boy as well and I’ll buy you all the gurda’n’kapoora you can eat. Think I’m getting withdrawal symptoms!

  • #5727

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Alphonso

    I didn’t realise it was a ‘fortnight’ BlueVal!

    Alph

    Just how long do you think it will take to get to Haifa and back in a 1990 LWB Lannie? Especially with you, me, Blend, Berkoz and a shedload of pork pies aboard.

  • #5728

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Crumbs BV, dinna go forgitting Streaky! He’s a main man when it comes to food, second only to drink if I read the boy correctly!
    He’s the man who invited us all over to his crib for a post season nosh just before Izzet crashed last time. Now, I dont think the crash had anything to do with him having second thoughts but………….

    Also he’s a Uni Prof which means that he has access to the spliffs that would be necessary to keep TUBI under sedation before the match.

    On the subject of us helping you for your kind assistance with this site, I’ve had a flash of inspiration…….

    I have given this some thought and have decided to offer my services doing a fine vintage burgundy tasing for you and your acolytes. All you need to do is provide and line up the wines and I’ll do the rest.

    I have a foolproof way of telling the reds from the whites in a blind tasting. Believe me, you may laugh but it aint always easy”!

    I have just been invited to accompany the TK on his next Ireland Squad Training. Bearing in mind your kind (if rather rash) offer of a bed and some serious imbibing I am minded to accept. I’ll give you dates in plenty of time to find plausible reasons for declining!

    Alph

  • #5729

    bluealf
    Participant

    hello lads

    a big thanks to steaky, glad i kept the old email from the original crash.

    well food drink n city wot could be better 😀

    ctid

  • #5730

    bluealf
    Participant

    obviousley all that talk bout food made me spell streaky wrong 😮

    but a fine fillet steak wud b nice 2 washed down with the northern cultured palet of stella artois, becoz its reasuringly expensive lol

    ctid

  • #5731

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    I have heard that the biggest Thai restaurant in the North/Country/Europe/World in being built by the side of the City of Manchester Stadium, is this true?

    Agree with BlueStreak about the Saffon in the old Cheetham Town Hall, ate there last time I was in Manchester; Good value, BYO with no corkage and a great pint of Holts within easy reach afterwards.

  • #5732

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Erik Bloodaxe?

  • #5733

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Ask BlueValentine…..

  • #5734

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Oh come on Alph, weren’t the Bloodaxes from Prestbury way, used to drink in the Dun Cow in Chelford and ride with the Cheshire Forest Hunt ? This is probably Daphne Bloodaxe’s youngest. I’m sure they were fans of Altrincham.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5735

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Ah indeed! The little grey cells fail me!

    You are indeed amongst the saddest of men Berkoz. I cant wait for the Haifa trip. Only another 26 years to go you reckon?

    Alph

  • #5736

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Welcome back Bluealf, also M.Bloodaxe, comment ca va? (can’t find the friggin sedilla on a PC keyboard!)

    Alph, the estimable Erik and I have history, harking back to Captain Dunkirk’s earlier vessels (the SS Batty Batt and SS Satisfaction and SS Main Aim) of which he was First Mate. He’s more Mancunian than Chelford – a Boggartholecluffian if I mind rightly.
    His appearance calls to mind the gastro-occasion at Whitstable where we paid for a large though less than satisfactory repast by the simple expedient of handing over the previous diner’s tip! Those were the days.

  • #5737

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    BTW the roadtrip to Kiryat Eliezer, home ground of Maccabi Haifa and somewhat ironically named as the ‘Mecca’ of Israeli football is a rare old treat. We’re talking the type of geographic variances whereby if you are travelling from the south it is possible to be on a beach in the morning basking in 80 degree heat and then skiing on the snow caps of Mt. Hermon a couple of driving hours later – pretty remarkable.

    For the forkers there are the delights of the Yemenite diners with their crunchy meat kibbehs and sweet mint teas and for the corkers some lively hospitality at the Carmel vinyards.

    There you go; footie, scoff and plonk all sitting easily with each other in the same post. This must be our long lost spiritual home.

    I remian

    Berkozex – The Whicker man.

  • #5738

    Alphonso
    Participant

    As the esteemed FE Smith put it so succinctly when the presiding judge complained that he was none the wiser after 2 hours of Smith’s questioning of the witness, ‘ Indeed not your honour, but you are better informed’.

    Erik Bloodaxe?

    Alph

  • #5739

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Alphonso

    I have a foolproof way of telling the reds from the whites in a blind tasting.

    Alph

    The Reds are the ones drinking out of the bottles?

    btw Rosso Arista is up and running and winding them up on MUEN – so far only one Rag has ventured onto the thread, must be hiding away in shame!

  • #5740

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Alphonso

    Erik Bloodaxe?

    Alph

    The full story is long and involved, quite possibly boring to those who ken not what a Merlin-Rocket is. I’ll tell it next time you’re in Toners. Although we’ll probably go to Mulligans.

    The original Erik was a Dane who migrated to the North of England, killed quite a few people, tykes, barcodes and his brothers mostly. Not to be confused with Erik or indeed Eric the Red; or Eric Morecambe, he was killing people on our side of the Pennines.

  • #5741

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Thanks BV

    I would have worried about that gap in my knowledge all day!

    Mulligans it is.

    A

  • #5742

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I can add a bit to that – the original Eric Bloodaxe was briefly king of Norway (son of Harald Fairhair – great names those Vikings had) before they got tired of his ways and gave him the boot. He ended up as king of York (Yorvik as it then was) before coming to a suitably grim end. Must have been a Lids fan to judge by his record.

    Anyone follow up the link I posted? The sheer arrogance and effrontery of the rags and other big clubs gets worse by the day if possible.

    Bad news from the ressies on Monday btw, they only managed a 1-1 draw with Wolfs in a very poor game. Jon Macken scored a really good goal then took it upon himself to take a pen (instead of BWP) and missed it.

  • #5743

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Quite remarkable isn’t it Streaky.

    Using the perverse logic of the petulant child, if the seedings were to take place in the manner described what would then happen if the 1st seed was in fact knocked out by the 16th. Would the argument the following year be that it should be best of 3 or even 5 or just keep changing the system until the top 3 or 4 clubs got the outcomes that they wanted.

    Or maybe just change the rules altogether to state that whatever the outcomes of the games we would have one final for the winners and another ‘proper’ final for Manyoo and Real rather like a world series but only ever competed for by those 2 clubs. At least that would satisfy the markerteers at both clubs and the TV folk and the delusional, self absorbed, introspectives whom are feeling slightly the poorer this year with their diminishing bottom lines for having failed to be good enough to progress past ‘inferior’ opponents.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5744

    TUBI
    Participant

    Alternatively, why dont we just take the figures for each financial year and see which 2 teams have the biggest profit and just play the final out between them. Of course the outcome would be irrelivant because the trophy would just be handed to Manyoo every year anyway because they’re the biggest and bestest team in the whole wide world ever and they own the trophy because they won it in 99 with the greatest and bestest group of players ever seen in club football.

  • #5745

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by BlueStreak

    Anyone follow up the link I posted? The sheer arrogance and effrontery of the rags and other big clubs gets worse by the day if possible.

    Yeah. See my earlier post.

    Best method is: A poll on Sky in September decides 7 of the last 8. Man U are seeded into the last 8.
    Then sealed bids are posted to see who plays who – Richest v Poorest, 2nd richest v 2nd poorest and so on. Man U receive 3 goal cushion on the away leg.
    Semi: Man U play the team who is not Real Madrid or Milan and receive a 3 goal cushion on the away leg and a 2 goal cushion on the home leg.
    Final: Team playing Man U starts with a 2 goal defecit and under the EUFA Final rules is forced to drop a player (no sub alowed) every 15 minutes, starting with the keeper.
    Sorted QED.

  • #5746

    TUBI
    Participant

    going back to the curry debate, there’s a cracking indian in knutsford called Muhgli (think thats how its spelt). Ah good old knutsford, how i miss it. A town full of just eateries and pubs. how i miss the old place

  • #5747

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    I’ve been stuying the DC boards in a lull in procedings today and have finally been able to draw an unequivocal and definite conclusion; – Reds can’t do satire.

    They just can’t. They have a go but always miss the mark by a mile. I don’t know whether it is just a low intelligence quotiant or perhaps a defect of the cerabela. But try as they might they just don’t get it.

    Some moron was staking his claim to comedic genius this morning and I have to say it was real Ryman league stuff. Even the banal exchanges between Cletus and Goober and a stout rebuttal piece from ex-pat from the outback were more engaging.

    Maybe we could make an Izzet self help video which, in 6 simple steps transforms the average Stretford Knuckle – dragger into a headliner at the Batley workingmens club. All proceeds could be used to fund our trip to Israel.

    Your thoughts gentlemen.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5748

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Ah Tubs – the nostalgia of Knutsford. I took the lovley Mrs Berko there on our first date. We ate at David’s Place. As a simple bloke from North Man I was a tad surprised at the final bill, especially as Mrs B ate nowt all evening. But I was asssured by them in the know that this was the way to court a daughter of Cheshire.

    She’s lucky to get a Jalfrezi and extra nan take out from the Khan Sahib these days.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5749

    TUBI
    Participant

    i worked as a KP at davids place for a couple of months when i was around 15 years old. Lovely little place. I believe its now been turned into the aforementioned Muhgli, but i might be mistaken. I also worked as a KP at est est est for a while too. quite a few city men would come in there on occasion. saw Andy morrison and superkev in there more than once.
    Also saw the rags in there a bit too. I remember one day (i was actually eating in there, not working) there was a whole table of ’em right next to us. Beckham, Giggsywiggsy, Scholesey, both the chuckle brothers etc. Beckham was very quiet and didnt say much, but the rest….and especially elder chuckle (surprise surprise)…were really noisy and obnoxious, generally being a bunch of pissed up arses. I asked the waiter (who i obviously knew was a liverpool fan) to go and tell them to be quiet. He gladly went over and had a word.
    It was hilarious to see them sit there sheepishly in virtual silence for the remainder of the evening.

  • #5750

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I like the TUBI solution for selecting finalists. For sheer simplicity and self seeking it takes the proverbial biscuit and licks the choccie of the fingers. A refinement pehaps would be to direct debit £500 of every season ticket holder for all top division clubs in Europe to divvie up between the G14 clubs. That would make a net saving for the fans who would not have the cost and bother of all the travel and ticket costs for all of the European matches that they no longer need to go to,

    Yes Streak, I read it. You are responsible for raising my blood pressure a few dozen points for the rest of the day!

    Arrogant pricks all of them and especially the Manure.

    Alph

  • #5751

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    I would probably be wise to avoid any formal critique of the alledged eaterie owned in part by Messers Bell & Waldron. Mention thereof would do nothing but sully the otherwise hallowed memory of a city legend. But I have got a childhood recollection of the Whitefield diner and this immense rat……………..

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5752

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Mmm! Re your childhood memory Berkoz, I have ne recollection of having been in that establishment at the time……….

    Alph

  • #5753

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Berkozboy
    But I have got a childhood recollection of the Whitefield diner and this immense rat……………..

    How was it cooked?

  • #5754

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I got a blank email from admin@blueview1 today, bit random, this must mean they got my email asking what’s going on………….maybe they don’t care……………they daren’t underestimate the power of the izzeters.

    And as for the rags, how more arrogant can you get………….
    Arseholes!

    Blend

    “Yes, didnt log out, I’m as lazy as he (Alph) is.

  • #5755

    Blend
    Participant

    Ah, I have figured out how to sign out of the old man’s nom de plume.
    Now to bulk up my rating to intergalactic multi-ethno celeb curry hideaway.

    Anyway, i’m off for a KFC.

    Blend

  • #5756

    ICSL
    Participant

    Nice to see you are all enjoying yourself. Not posted much but I am being kept amused by the banter on here. Alph is quite right – I certainly will NOT be joining in the frivolities where PORK is concerned.

    Seekh Kebabs sound good though!:)

    Followed by a jug of Mango Lassi.

    (Although my wife makes a cracking version of ‘Tandoori Chicken’ – adds lemons and spices for that tangy, sizzling taste…)

    I see Bischoff is off to Wolves – good luck to him. At 23 it is probably the best step for his career – with Onouha, Dunne and Distin well in front of him, he was not going to get many chances. Not sure that the Board haven’t encouraged this move, but I’m sure he had his input too. I can see Wolves being one of the contenders for promotion next season.

  • #5757

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I agree it’s a good move for Bischoff. Apparently it’s a “loan with a view to buy” deal so at the very least he gets first team football for the rest of the season while we save his wages. Seems the proposed deal is cash plus player with Camara the player in question. I think that could be a very good move for us, he looked easily Wolfs best player last year. Apparently Pearce is away over Easter doing some scouting, looks as though there’s going to be a pretty big clearout/restructuring over the Summer even if there isn’t much money. SP is talking about four players which I would guess is 1/2 strikers, a midfielder and a wide left player. If Thatcher does go he’ll need to be replaced as well. One thing to think about is who we might want to pinch from the relegated teams. Gera at WBA looks good. However I think there’s a very good chance Norwich and WBA will come right back up so players might opt to stay with them (I have to say grudgingly that I’m quite impressed with the job Capt Marvel is doing).

  • #5758

    ICSL
    Participant

    Yes Blue Streak, I would definitely be interested in Camara if that is the deal that Wolves want to do for Bischoff. I also like the look of Gera at WBA. Ashton is good at Norwich but they did pay £3m so that might be a non-starter.

    Don’t think Capt. Marvel is a good Manager, though. His past record is poor and I just feel that WBA players are trying their guts out to stay up. I read an Interview he did once ( I think it was the 4-4-2 magazine but can’t swear on it – I was waiting to have my hair cut!) – couldn’t believe the arrogance of the man – was shocked at some of his comments!

    ”I was a better player than either Ince or Keane.” ”Gascoigne didn’t come to United because he would have felt as if he was in my shadow!” ”Terry Venables only ‘helped’ out at Middlesbro’.” ”I watched Viv Anderson and the other coaches train the players and decided that in future, I would have to take the coaching sessions at any other clubs I managed.” ”I still believe that I could get the Old Trafford job one day.” ”I was surprised that my name was not put forward for the England job!” There were more classics but I can’t remember them….

    Typical Rag really. Still surprised me though as I had thought him more modest….

  • #5759

    ICSL
    Participant

    I wonder where I ascend to once I have gone past the Transport Caff. stage? 🙂

  • #5760

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I was wondering that too. Where does the Plaza rank?

  • #5761

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by ICSL

    I see Bischoff is off to Wolves – good luck to him. At 23 it is probably the best step for his career – with Onouha, Dunne and Distin well in front of him, he was not going to get many chances. Not sure that the Board haven’t encouraged this move, but I’m sure he had his input too.

    Not sure it’s a great idea, except maybe for Bisch. It seems like Psycho is thinking of Nedum as a RB, prefered to BOLB. So centre back cover for Dunny and Diz is pretty limited, especially now McCarthy’s gone – incidentally in his 10 min cameo performance for Leics v Jack Walker I thought he looked prety nifty, some nice footwork.

    RE Red Robbo
    Captain Tampax, as I prefer (in for one week, out for three) has a head the size of Birkenhead, as anyone who’s ever sat at the next table in a restaurant (usually an Italian place near Victoria, Mcr, can’t bring to mind the name but a big rag player and camp follower haunt in its day) will testify.
    It’s said that Bobby Robson once asked him, shortly after Capn T started in management “Are you going to get some coaching qualifications?”, whereupon the good skipper told him. “Naff off, I was a great player. What can these guys teach me?”

    RE the upwardly mobile bit, I think Pizza Joint or maybe Hamburger Heaven is the next stage. Unless “Ernie” decided in his webgod role to create a bespoke title – about as rare as non-posthumous VC’s – anyhow don’t suppose you’d fancy Greasy Spoon Famed for Obscenely Large Full English Breakfast, Icy, reading between the lines of Alph’s post on the Haifa trip.

  • #5762

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Couldn’t agree more about what a total pratt Capt Marvel is, a complete pisshead for many years as well. However you can’t deny WBA have improved considerably since he came (although of course it doesn’t follow logically that it’s down to him – post hoc ergo procter hoc and all that). The press are going to have stories linking SWP with all the world and his uncle for the next few months and most of it will be utter bollocks but I am increasingly sure looking at our squad that he will go. KK’s legacy is an unbalanced squad with serious flaws and full of players who have to be replaced in the next 18 months, not to mention the two vacancies left by Wanchope and Anelka. Thing is there is simply no money for the next 18 months either. We could try to stagger on and keep SWP for another year but he’d go at the end of that anyway and it would be a big risk because I feel that even with him in the side, we’d be relegation fodder next year if we don’t make a few replacements/new buys over the summer. It looks as though both Chelsea and Arsenal are after him and he’d get to play first team a lot of the time at both. No doubt he’d rather go to the Arse but I suspect Sibneft will get him. The good thing from our point of view is that this will put the price up.

    What gets me though is that along with credible rumours about Arsenal and Chelsea are all these other ones about Spurs! Just goes to show the London media are full of sad, self-deluded Spurts fans with la folie des grandeurs as the French call it.

  • #5763

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    More drivel from MUEN

    “WHEN Stuart Pearce looks into Nedum Onuoha’s eyes this week, he has no doubts that he will be able to see a passion and determination burning inside”
    Steady on, guys.

    Also, anybody spot this beauty? Don’t suppose so because most of you would have had the English commentary and not the “British” one from our chums in the Ormeau Road.
    I think the commentator was Jackie Fullerton: (at 1-0) “That’s the first goal England have scored against Northern Ireland since their last meeting 18 years ago”

  • #5764

    Calgary Blue
    Participant

    If the tabloids are to be believed, I’m not sure Psycho made the wisest choice to declare that if he wasn’t made the permanent manager, he would leave the club. I think anybody in his position would feel the same but it’s one thing to feel that way and potentially act on it but to openly state your intentions ? Well it comes across as an ultimatum and dependent on the attitude of the board they may feel as though they are being dictated to and accordingly, could lead them to go for an outsider. If they do that, Psycho has no choice other than to leave either voluntarily or be eased out.

    I think he’s made a sound start to the position in terms of the way he is getting the players to respect authority and implementing a more structured aggressive training strategy but needs to be a little careful. The last thing he needs to do is alienate himself from the board.

  • #5765

    bluemoon
    Participant

    Whilst on the subject of restaurants and food, all you can eat for £9 etc. I was in Oldham a couple of weeks ago and had an all you can eat for £4 and take your own drink. It has to be £4 in Oldham as we can’t afford £9 in Oldham, hasten to say I didn’t see and footy stars, to busy eatin.

    If SP has an exit list in prep for next season lets hope No1 is steve Macmanamammmmmm or what ever he’s called.

  • #5766

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    It seems Psycho is insisiting that FEC (and probably other players) call him “Gaffer”.
    How naff is that? I remember messrs Bond and Ball, two no-marks with huge inferiority complexes, giving the same instructions.
    If you have to hide behind a title wtf and if you have to hide behind a title as stupid and archaic as “gaffer” in this day and age wtf in spades!
    I’m rapidly going off Psycho.

  • #5767

    TUBI
    Participant

    So whadda you reckon the chances of Macca getting a new deal then? i wouldnt be surprised if they offered him a 4 year contract on a higher wage, knowing the way our board seems to work.

    Alternatively, as a poster on MUEN suggested (i wonder if this guy can see into the future), he’ll probably leave city, sign for Bolton for a third of the wage and have 2 outstanding seasons with them before retiring.

  • #5768

    bluemoon
    Participant

    I don’t think there is any chance of Macca getting a contract on the pretext of what SP has been saying in regards of giving youth a chance (good enough old enough). Also if he is honest to City and most of all to himself if he has a conscious he knows he should pack it in and try something else. Otherwise he will feel as though he’s cheating City out of £35K a week thus not giving anyone the chance to play in his position.

  • #5769

    TUBI
    Participant

    Yea i know…i was sorta being sarcastic 😮

  • #5770

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Perhaps it’s just me but has the buccaneering zeal and swashbuckling spirit of the crew of the former flagship Izzet waned since the vessel’s untimely demise ?

    I truly mean no disrespect or ingratitiude to our gentle hosts herein but I do sense a tepidness in the blue waters surrounding Kempton Izzet at present.

    Maybe it’s a reflection on the footie with a fairly tired limp towards a meaningless finish line. Equally the uncertainties surrounding the future headship may mirror our own unclear mid and long term domiciliary arrangements.

    If it is just me then I extend my apologies to the more upbeat amongst you. I will retire to residents lounge and reinvigourate myself with rewinds of Billie Piper in the excellent Dr Who and write my ‘get-well-soon’ cards to the still fabulous Gail Porter.

    As an interesting City aside it was on this day in 1924 that blue Legend Billy Meredith became the oldest player to appear in the FA cup at 49yrs, 245 days. A record that stood until 2003 when we signed Paul Bosvelt.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5771

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Berkoz,

    Don’t you bloody dare retire! Hast thou not heard the rumours concerning the imminent signing of Tommy Hutchinson, Gerd Muller, Mattias Vuoso, Paolo Maldini, Dickson Etuhu, Ryan Giggs et al?
    Not to mention the impending managerial dream-team-in-waiting-in-the wings of Steve Bruce and Ossie Ardiles?
    Kindly stop cuddling your arse in a bucket of cream in the sleepy hollow hamlet of Upton-by-Izzet and opine forthwith!!!!!

    Personally I’d attribute the current langueur – yes, I’ve felt it too, to three factors
    1. Easter – whither Blend, Alph and the deliciously typo’d Blue Steak?
    2. The silly season. MANUEN and mancitycarinsurance.com are more than usually moribund too
    3. The continued absence of Bell Boy and IOM, presumably still blundering around in the red mirk looking for us.

    Meanwhile, to keep the wheels from falling off:
    a) If Psycho gets the psacko who, of the realistically available candidates would be your choice?
    b) assuming the new guy has 10 mill to spend (realistic I think) who would you buy and why?
    c) where will we finish next season if Pyscho is still manager, has little or no money to spend and manages to hang on to Wrighty.
    d) who would you let go at the end of the season?

  • #5772

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Valers – As Dr. Gillian McKeith, the bogus diet guru upon whose every word the impressionable Mrs Berko hangs, is want to say (in best Jean Brodie accent) ” a measured portion of creme frais up the rectum, daily, will suffice to keep the Chalfonts away”, and whom are we to argue ?

    Can’t see any manager, Psycho or otherwise getting any significant loot. Most proposective candidates will be lured with the seduction of SWP still in post and a useful bunch of kids with which to work.

    The successful candidate will be the one whom can harness that that he inherits and imports or overlays his tactical blueprint which acknowldges those limitations and gains the very best from them. On this criterion the only candidate for the job can be that bloke at AZ Alkmaar. Unlike all the usual named suspects he has a genuine and demonstrable track record of succeeding against the odds with limited resources in a ground that burgeons with 12,000 inside.

    I can’t see any real visionary wanting to keep Walford, Fowler, Reyna, Mills, Mcmnmnmn or Musampa. But the Dutch fella may want Bosvelt as a ‘bridging tool’ with a view to ultimately moving him into the management team.

    I guess that what we all hope to see is a City team with pace and movement again after what seems like an age of pedestrian play. The Strachans and Allardyces are not going to bring this and the jury is still out on Dowie.

    I hope that Psycho does the biz. But deep down I suspect we all sense that the board are already on the lookout.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5773

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Here’s a little funny with a slight food (and Wales) connection.

    Two English tourists were driving through Wales. At llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch, they stopped for lunch and one tourist asked the waitress:

    “Before we order, could you please settle an argument for us?”

    “Sure”, replied the waitress.

    “Would you please pronounce where we are… very slowly?” one of them asked.

    Scroll down for the answer…

    The blonde waitress leaned over and said, “Burrrrr-gurrrr-Kinngg…”

    Meanwhile .. there is a certain lassitude among footy fans in general right now I suspect. Trouble is it became clear some weeks ago that barring a catastrophe Chelsea would win the title, and now there’s only a few teams with anything to play for. Plus, the abolition of league football over Easter (and not just here either – who gave UEFA this power?) has produced a kind of drawn out feeling to the end of the season. Things should start to pick up though as far as our team is concerned as a few players will feel they have something to prove. In an idle moment I went through the squad and what I would do with them. For me it made sobering reading.

    James – excellent buy, doing the business for us. KEEP

    Weaver, DeVlieger. – I don’t think we can keep both, one will go or at least be loaned out.

    Dunne – player of season for me. KEEP
    Distin – huge improvement from last year. KEEP
    Nedum – great prospect. KEEP.
    Jordan – a pleasant surprise for me, looks solid. KEEP
    Thatcher – looked very good recently but will probably leave. KEEP (if poss)
    BOLB – would like to get rid but hard to and expensive to replace. very reluctantly KEEP
    Sleepy – GET RID.
    Bischoff – SELL looks like he’s going.

    Sun – KEEP but the contract we’re sensibly offering is basically up to Christmas with an option after that. See how he recovers.
    Reyna – a tidy player but too slow for the Prem, at least in a 442. SELL.
    Macmanaman – nuff said. GET RID. (might be worth keeping as a coach).
    Barton – KEEP.
    Bosvelt – KEEP for one more year.
    Flood – KEEP
    Sinclair – GET RID if at all possible.
    Negouai – GET RID.
    Sibierski – a clever footballer but just too slow for the Prem (see Reyna, Macca, Walford) – SELL.

    Fowler – KEEP but only has one year to go anyway.
    BWP – KEEP.
    Macken – I like him and he does bring something to the side but he’s clearly not up to it at this level (too slow) – SELL
    (Anelka, Wanchope) need replacing.

    Looking at that list it’s clear how disastrous KK’s legacy is and just how much rebuilding is needed. That’s why I fear we will have to sell SWP or really struggle. There’s also

    Ireland
    J Dlaryea
    L Croft
    all of whom should be kept in my view but Croft will probably leave unless SWP is sold.

  • #5774

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Our resident blonde at work reckons she’s a bit of a mastermind candidate when it comes to horse racing – maybe because she’s been ridden by a few jump jockeys in her time and owned a pony as a child. The other day, the entertainment committee, of which august body she’s a member, was discussing potential questions for a table quiz. Eavesdropping, I said “Okay then. When was Lester’s last Derby Winner?”
    The Blonde said “I’m sorry. I don’t know anything about football”

    Hard to disagree with your conclusions, Streak. The Weaver/De Vlieger thing is quite a hard call. If Nicky’s fit we should maybe give him a few games, put him in the shop window, we might get a few bob.
    Dunny I agree has got to be player of the year and he and Diz should be kept together.

    If Psycho got the Psacko I think I’d prefer AZ Man or Paul le Guen if nothing else for the sheer novelty of having a coach who’s a thinker.

    The real dodgy deal for me would be O’Neill who’s only done it in a two team league.

  • #5775

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Looking at that list leads to the following conclusions for me. We simply MUST get: two strikers, a left sided midfielder (either Kiki or someone else – right now I lean strongly to keeping Kiki), one central midfielders, a right fb. We will probably also need a left fb, another central midfielder, and another striker. In a year’s time we will need to replace Fowler and Bosvelt at least. That means a lot of money which is why I reluctantly favour selling SWP. If we got say £18 mill we could do most of the ‘essentials’. The alternative is to sell Distin and Barton. I’m against that for this reason – if you look at the list our defence isn’t too bad and we have a pretty good defensive mf pairing (although we do need cover). The big gap is up front and eslewhere in mf. I don’t see the point of disassembling the part of the team that’s begun to work ok. We have to hope for some luck – for Sun to come back ok and for a couple of the young players to come through (Flood, Croft, Ireland, BWP – I think Nedum already has) which would help a good deal but we can’t rely on that. Did you notice that of the players got in Jan-Sept 2003 only one (Fowler) is a KEEP (and only just) while all the rest (Sleepy, Sibierski, Macca, Walford, Reyna) are get rids? That truly was a disastrous eight months.

    I also increasingly like the sound of Co Adriense. I must defend M O’N though. Before he went to Scotland he got Wycombe into the league and then promoted plus won a trophy, he got Leicester promoted, kept them up fairly comfortably, got to three League Cup finals and won two of them. I reckon that’s a good record. I think though with the noises coming out of OT he will be very tempted to wait a year and see if Fungusbum gets the shove after another trophyless season next year.

  • #5776

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Streaky – I am not convinced that the sale of SWP will generate the war chest that you suggest.

    On the basis of little more than the ill informed speculation I sense that the lad could command a figure of no less than £20m with rival bidders actually forcing the price up.

    It seems that no matter what income we accrue we are always spoken of as a club with debts of £60m. Much has been written ( a lot by you) of the true nature fo this debt but I really sense that in KK the board had their fiscal fingers burnt and would be unwilling to do so again for almost anyone. The priority would probably be to pay a significant chunk off the debt in order to scale down interest payments which seem to be responsible for proping up the quantum of ‘hard’ debt.

    Certainly we can expect to see departure at the end of term, hopefully the ones we have suggested and this will reduce the wage burden. But I cannot believe that either Psycho or any other appointee will be given much more than £6-£7m to spend. That is not a sum upon which a team can be rebuilt and certainly not one that will allow for dramatic ‘swoop sensations’ that ‘rock the premiership’.

    I think that if this gloomy prophecy comes to anything it will go some way to determining the identity of the next manager or in other words a man who is prepared to work within certain pre-agreed constraints for 12-18months. It also suggests that unless that individual commands the fullest confidence of the board then the sale of SWP is a lose/lose scenario keeping few but the accountants happy.

    The additional bad news is that Chris Ecclestone has decided not to do a 2nd series as The Doctor fearing he may be type-cast. I think the producers are looking at the bloke who plays Ken Barlow whom has no such worries.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5777

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I agree that whoever is manager will have to work within a very tight budget for the next 18 months. That’s one reason why the board may give SP a one year deal at the end of this season, to see how he gets on over a full season. The problem is we need to get about five new players in as a matter of urgency and I don’t see how that can be done without spending money and the only way to get it is by selling playing assets, which means SWP – particularly as he is a racing certainty to leave at the end of next season anyway and he might not command such a high fee then. Face it, if we did get an offer of £20 mill from Sibneft I think the board would have to accept. The question Berkoz raises is what happens to any money? Personally I don’t think much or any of it would or (more importantly) could be used to pay down debt. The £62 mill you are always hearing about consists of the following elements essentialy. (a) The BearStearns loan which is essentially a mortgage secured against ST sales, payable over 25 years. (b) A similar kind of loan but more expensive (i.e. higher interest) taken out in 2003 to fund KK’s last hurrah (c) About £13 mill due to Makin, Wardle & “unnamed other” (that last comes to about £3.5 mill IIRC). There’s no real point in paying bits off a or b unless you pay off the entire sum, which would come to more than we would get for SWP by some margin. That only leaves c. The loans in that category are shown in the accounts as falling due in the next 2 years but that’s an accounting device, in fact they aren’t going to be called, at least not the ones to Wardle and Makin. The mystery lender might want his/her money repaid but that’s as far as it goes. The problem we have is that while the loans are manageable the regular interest and capital payments take most of the surplus income we generate and we’ll only start to see a bigger surplus as increased turnover works itself through in the next year or so. So if we did cash SWP in you might get some minor loans paid off but the bulk would be retained. The loans to Wardle and Makin btw are a “poison pill” that deters any outside investment because any investor looking to buy the whole show (which anybody putting in a substantial amount would want to do) would have to pay all that back. I strongly suspect that was deliberate and is one reason why the “Portuguese” money (b) was not used to repay most of them.

    We are not the only club in bad shape btw, see Charlton’s latest figures and I reckon Spuz and Brum have gone and done this year what we did in 2003. The finances of football as a whole are in bad shape. In this case I’m a believer in the old principle “Worse is better” as a crisis is needed to lead to a radical restructuring of the game.

  • #5778

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    I wonder if Psycho will stick to his guns and select Onuaha again ahead of Mills. This will be an interesting measure of his management style as re-selection will affirm confidence in the youngster whilst omission may offer a very different message.

    It seems that the yank is uncharacteristically injured again. This could see Croft start in a wide right berth. I certainly hope so.

    If Jordan also plays we may see a City line up with an average age of 25 and that includes James, Boz and Fowler.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5779

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Just finished catching up after a good week of estate maintenance at the Pile of LochAlph.
    It’s simply amazing how much gardening one can do with the loan of a mini digger!

    If we had been relying on the huntin’ and fishin’ skills of the legendary TK to grace the table I’d have lost three stone!

    Just a couple of comments, I have an attention span of a micro second these days and probably inaccurately remember who wrote what but……………with apo’s for errors……

    1. The list of players and comments set out by Streak is sobering. I cannot disagree with any of the conclusions.
    2. Clearly, the only area of competence in depth is the defense. We have two players who can play in each of the back four positions plus three decent keepers. One of the backup keepers has to go. The heart says keep Weaver, he is more likely to be content to play 2nd fiddle to James yet a while than t’other fella. The head says keep de Vlieger, he’s a more accomplished keeper.
    3. It isn’t just a matter of getting 4 or 5 better players in, we have to get 4 or 5 out too and that will be harder. Anyone with a cheque book can make a buy but selling’s different.
    3. Unless Walford wants back to Lunnon I can’t see us shifting
    him. I mean, who would pay his wages even?
    4. I can’t see anyone paying a fee for any of the midfielders that Streaks wants rid of, can you? If that’s the case, then the only one’s who we can shift contracturally are Macca, Negouai and Boz and we all want to keep Boz another year.
    5. I think we would get a small fee for Macken who would do a very good job for a Coca Cola CL side.
    6. Whilst I accept Streak’s assessment of Sibs shortcomings, he cost us a small fee, isn’t on big money and can cover a number of options which he does wholeheartedly so I’d be in no hurry to shed him but would for a fee.
    7. What is the situation with Musampa? Whilst I haven’t thought that he set the place alight, he certainly gives us a presence on the left that we haven’t had for a long time now and his play has improved as his fitness has grown.

    If the worse happens and all we can shed is, say, Macken, Macca, Negouai and AN Other, I’d prioritise like this:

    8. Strikers? We are in the mire here. Fowler is doing fine but him exepted, we only have an unproven boy and the failed Macken who must go. An injury to Fowler……….! Two players in a must!
    9. If Musampa goes back to AM we need another left sided midfielder to be ahead of Walford in the pecking order. We also need a quick creative player to be ahead of Reyna/Sibs in the central MF pecking order. Boz will be good support with Joey 1st choice in the DM role.
    10. Even with 2 new strikers a LMF and a CMF we will start the season with a paper thin squad (quality wise). The 1st pick 16 might be OK but half a dozen injuries would play havok. At least this would give some encouragement to the likes of Willo, Crofty, Ireland, d’Laryea and Bradley who would surely feel that they must get opportunities? We very much need a couple of these (at least) to step up and make the grade.

    If Shuan goes then we will seriously risk being a relegation zone team all next season. he alone has the speed of foot and mind to pose a real threat now that Anelka is gone.

    There is room for some creative thinking if we can keep him. I also think it would be a dire move to let Croft go. Shuan can give us something extra playing in behind Robbie or at inside right and this would give plenty of opportunity to bring Croft and Flood along further. I would like to see Croft and Shuan in the same side for a couple of decent length cameos.

    As for Psycho ‘the Gaffer’. He can be ‘Sar’n’t Major’ or ‘Your Lordship’ for what I care if he gets the management and coaching right and the performance and attitude from the players that we have a right to expect.

    A bit ‘naff’ though! I hope it aint true! It’s sort of ‘Kray era Lunnon speak’, innit!?

    Alph

  • #5780

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    …reminds me of the story about the young white gangsta that goes into the recruitment agency and says ” Yoh sista ! I’s come about dat posta in da window sayin’ you ‘as jobs innit !”

    “No sir,” replies the patient receptionist ” Our poster says we have jobs in I.T. !”

    Welcome home Alph. You may well have passed the Berko sister in law and her clan travelling south from Edinburgh to visit. You will have recognised them by the Scots flag on the rear and the excessive amount of Manyoo merchandise adorning the rest of vehicle. It will have been travelling at 23mph so that they can conserve fuel. I look forward to a weekend with my brother in law who makes Private Fraser look like Wee Angus McMirthful – winner of the most mirthful jock in all of Scotchland.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5781

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Well Berko, sounds like a fun gig!

    Actually, I’m only posting to see if 30 gets me ketchup on me ‘amburgher!

    Alph

  • #5782

    Blend
    Participant

    Well……what a strange game.
    I’m not going to moan about the result, even though I was majorly disappointed.
    The only complaint I had with Pearcey was that he didn’t make a sub late on in the second half, but then we never looked like conceding so I suppose that’s nit picking,
    The boys played really well, probably better than they have all season. The result was disappointing, but we would have taken a point at the beginning of the game…………I suppose.

    Plusses for me.
    1) Fowler had another cracking game.
    2) Reyna was impressive.
    3) Musampa improves with every game, and he is looking fitter and more mentally quick, even saw some neet skills today.
    4) Joey is looking like a much more mature player.
    5) Onuoho was played again.
    6) Dunne and Distin look better every game
    7) Although he missed some chances, Macken’s link-up play made our play far more fluid and his general play was great.

    Saying all that, looking at our squad for next year………….looking thin.

    Blend

  • #5783

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Good performance.
    Decent crowd of people, too. I used to live up the road from Charlton’s ground in one of my 4 London periods and their supporters always seem about the most civilised of Cockneys. Nice to get to a live match for a change.
    Agree about Musampa. I’m coming round to thinking we should sign cos on the last couple of performances he looks a Prem player and we’ve no hope of getting anyone better on the money we can afford.
    For me Reyna was a minor revelation – much higher work rate than I’ve seen.
    Macken is still a total dope in front of goal and continues what I’ve been repeating like a mantra all bloody year – strikers who don’t strike are not strikers and shouldn’t be played.
    Agreed re Dunny and Dizzy- awesome – and unlucky with their first goal to get a hookey bounce. On balance we should have won 2-1 or 4-1 if John M had put two easy chances away.
    I like the way Psycho agonises on the touchline, much better for the team than KK’s muted, sullen, disinterested, hard-done-by body language and wrapped up in anorak cocoon thing.

  • #5784

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Made the mistake of looking up Manuen before I take my cocoa and cask-strength Laphroaig in the Halkyn Hotel.
    Posted this on the site:
    “A load of bollocks from a pack of total whingers who should be ashamed to call yourselves City supporters. Were any of you actually at the match?
    We should have buried the Addicts 4-1, maybe 5-1 if spastic Macken had accepted 2 or more simpe chances.
    The middle 2, Dunny and Dizzy were awesome most of the game. The Charlton goal (and I was standing behind James when the cross came in) was pretty fluky, Diz got a totally hooky bounce.
    Ned Onouha might not yet be the complete RB but he’s a bloody sight better than Mills.
    Reyna had one of his best games in a city shirt, more good work down the right and Musampa is at last starting to show – he’ll be better than anyone else we could get for the money so we should maybe sign him. His presence gives us more options than we had before with Macpointy strolling about or Sibs played out of position.
    For God’s sake quit moaning and get behind the team – this board seems to be a haven for the chronically insecure. I’m not talking about rose-tinted specs optimism – merely some respect for a pretty workmanlike performance that went pear shaped in the 92 minute as these things can.
    Finally, I wouldn’t be the ultimate Psycho for Manager fan but his body language is miles better than KK of recent months.”
    Night, night..

  • #5785

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I’d say a very good performance, particularly in the first half. The fitness levels were better than of late but we did still tire in the last 10 minutes or so. The outstanding players for me were Fowler, Distin and (a surprise for me) Reyna. Macken showed both why he’s good to have in the side (links play up well and can hold the ball up so brings the midfield into play more) and why he’s bad to have in the side (can’t score). The most interesting thing for me is the change in the players’ attitude which has improved tremendously since KK left. I know this always tends to happen when you get a new manager but it’s good to see all the same. I completely endorse BV’s comments about KK’s sulkyboy body language.

    The club are clearly going to make a serious attempt to hang on to SWP. That’s courageous as Sir Humphrey would say. If we do keep him one consequence will be that either Croft or Flood will go (otherwise three players and one position). Personally I’d keep Croft, because while there’s not much to chose between them otherwise he is the more physically robust. I’d like to keep both but can’t see that happening. If SWP does stay then we’re talking about a limited reconstruction this Summer. That means

    (a) Pearce gets the job – on a 12 month roller.

    (b) We get Camara from Wolves.

    (c) We keep Kiki

    (d) We look to lower divisions and the relegated sides to get a couple of full backs, another striker and a midfielder.

    Could be done but it will make the next pre-season very important in terms of seeing how younger players are coming on.

  • #5786

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Most everything fine except the result!

    If I wanted to be picky I’d suggest that the manager is taking a big risk playing all 11 of a team that is still not at peak fitness for the whole 90+ minutes.

    One or perhaps even both of Croft for Reyna and BWP for Macken with 10-20 minutes to go would have looked sensible on two counts. (1) there was a need for fresh legs (2) both of these players cause problems for defenders and are quick enough to make breaks count.

    I thought Reyna was excellent, a close to MOM performance but he was knackered at the end. Macken simply has no touch infront of goal these days. Odd really because when he first came and had a few games he looked confident and competent in the box.

    The fact is that we created (Robbie created!) more than enough chances to win any game and we simply do not have another striker to bury them.

    Dean Ashton might not cost too much in the summer? I fancy he might have had a hat trick if he’d been playing against Charlton. Hows about a swap deal including Macken who would get a bucket full of goals in a lower division.

    It could be that Psycho wants to bring the young players in one at a time? If so, I suspect we might see Mills back next week and Croft getting a run out?

    I’m not sure what I would do. Macken needs to have a run of games, but so does Bradley and the latter might possibly make a Prem striker whereas the former almost certainly will not.

    I hear what Streaky says but hope he is wrong on the SWP issue where Flood and Croft are concerned. Even if we keep SWP another year he will go and then there is more than enough room for the two of them. There is just so much football in any player, the earlier they get to the top, the earlier they get kicked into retirement unless they are very lucky. Both are still very young. They need good counselling on this. It’s easier to walk away from a Prem side like City than it is to walk in!

    Look at Dickson Etuhu, hasnt his career taken off since he joined Preston! He was well ahead of Joey in the pecking order wasn’t he.

    What about the Toons? That was one of the funniest things I’ve seen in years. Surely Bowyer has finally blown his footballing career. I shouldn’t think anyone would take a chance on him now. A rather nasty man it would seem.

    Alph

  • #5787

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    According to Sourness, Bowyer’s future with the Barcodes is “assured”.
    Though Freddy Scrubber didn’t look too happy, sat up in the stands.
    Good job Fowler hasn’t got the same temperament, he’d have knocked 9 kinds of shit out of Macken.
    I’d like to see Croft get 20 mins, he seems to have pushed past The Hobbit in the pecking order. Or maybe they are just going to put him in the shop window.

  • #5788

    Alphonso
    Participant

    The Fowler quip, very funny BlueVal!!
    Cheered me up on Monday morning.
    I had tickets for the game in the directors box (a pal’s a former director) but with it being televised and early, I couldn’t be bothered to go (much to the TK’s disgust)!

    A

  • #5789

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Did you chaps notice how long we were actually holding onto the ball ? This was something of a revelation. I’m not sure whether it was just me but in the very early stages when 7 or 8 passes where being strung together, some were a bit tentative in strength (often,sadly from the FEC)It seemed as though they had been given the new style to adopt but were still a little new to it.

    I think that it is sniffy to get too critical this early in a new regime and overall I am very impressed with a performance that had far less of the ‘edge-of-the- seat’ anxiety about it than I can remember in recent times. It was actually pretty enjoyable stuff.

    There were even moments when I found myself hoping Kiki would get the ball as something fairly interesting always seemed to happen when he did.

    I think that the Onuaha/Thomas contest was equally interesting. The latter is probably Charlton’s most promising player and despite losing him once or twice I think our lad played him very well and even skinned him for pace on runs of his own. Additionally he always seems to look up when in posession and is not scared to find a pass infield rather than adopt the Mills patented hoof to nobody! In general there was far less of that stuff going on and this may be part of the reason why we were holding onto the ball for so long.

    It would be nice to think that Psycho ( as entertaining as any of the play) has a strategy of planned introductions for the younger lads. I guess that this will unfold in the next 3 games.

    With the scousers, the Fayeds and Brum to come it would be terrific to come away with 6 points (or even 7) and I think that would go a long way to securing the job for ‘his nibs’ for a further 12 months at least.

    I hope so.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5790

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    ….and whilst we’re on the subject of DC. Do you think that these alledged morons and malcontents that submit their whining posts are all genuine ? (the redoubtable Ernie not withstanding) I am ever more certain that the majority come from the desk of some leatherette elbow patched dullard at Noozah Towers whose only brief is to wind us up.

    I remain sceptical

    Berkozex

  • #5791

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    ….and finally whilst I’m ranting about absentee hacks did anyone read the player ratings on the Sky sports site. Distin got a 5!!!!

    Quite remarkable.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5792

    TUBI
    Participant

    The idiots are winning….

  • #5793

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Looks like bellboy has surfaced on the DC site.

    Congrats to Gen. Berko on spotting him first. I’ve posted the emergency email and offered the company helicopter. Here’s hoping.
    I’ve missed the irascible old sod.

    http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchestercity/comments/view.html?story_id=153405

    Alph

  • #5794

    Alphonso
    Participant

    By the way BlueVal, how many more posts before I graduate to ‘Rustic Trattoria in the Colli Euganei’?
    If I have to be a ‘Joint’ then maybe a ‘Well Hung Rib of Aberdeen Angus’?

    I drank one of my few remaining Amarone, 1975 (Flli. Farina) on Sunday. I haven’t come down yet!

    Alph

  • #5795

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    I see there’s more speculation on the Morons United Evening News site concerning Robbie Keane as a makeweight in a “Spurts Sweep swoop”.
    Usual load of drivel I presume?
    Wouldn’t mind RK as long as we had a better-than-John Mack clone as well. I’m with Streak on this, I like the way the team plays with Macken upfront, certainly at Charlton the front pair got a lot of arriving support thanks to JM holding the ball up. But his shot/conversion ratio is woeful – except perhaps in the rubgy sense of ‘over the bar’!
    Part-ex is no substitute for loadzamoolah in the paw though.

  • #5796

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Valers, the thought process that writes these articles at DC is signatured by the clunking and grinding sound akin to the one made by the lovely Mrs B when attempting a low gear change.

    Ingredient 1 = A derisory Spurs offer for SWP in the last window signifies their intentions

    Ingredient 2 = ‘not-the-real-Keano’ has a spat with the gaffer after having been benched in a 1-1 draw.

    DC conclusion = Sweep swoop swap rocks premiership?!?!?

    Try it it’s a giggle – they could have written this one –

    Ingredient 1 = Taggart to retire at end of season

    Ingredient 2 = Ecclestone resigns as Dr. after one series.

    DC conslusion = Beeb unveil first jock as new Dr.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5797

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    ….seems Bellers got the message. But as we know he works on a different time parallel to the rest of us. So I guess that we can look forward to a visit when he has resolved his problems on Galifray.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5798

    TUBI
    Participant

    what about “Doc Swap Shock Rocks Old Trafford?!?!?!?”

    The story obviously being the “exclusive” of Chris Ecclestone becoming boss of manure in a swap deal with taggart who becomes the new doctor.
    Total actual quotes from people involved in the article = 0

  • #5799

    Alphonso
    Participant

    http://www.manchesteronline.co.uk/sport/football/manchestercity/comments/form.html?story_id=153561

    This is the ‘Will Joey play for England’ MUEN storyline.

    Over to you Berkoz!

    Alph

  • #5800

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Alph – I have obliged with a few low key comments. No doubt the massed ranks of the armchair ex-pats & DC agent provocoteurs will be mixing their cocktails of bile.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5801

    bell boy
    Participant

    Call off the Search already …. i was just keeping a low profile.
    It’s not that easy to get rid of me … you must try harder .

    Greetings mein Host ,….nice Digs . I promise to try to be on my best behaviour or at least ,to try to try .(i wiped my feet on the way in for a start )

    How many Forums have we broken now 3 ? .I was about to suggest we started a new Izzet Thread as 3,000 odd entries seemed a bit much and load times were getting longer .(hope the “Dowie” pic wasn’t the final straw ,it seemed like a good Idea at the time ….)
    Anyway ,my legal people have said that you can’t prove it was me so i have come out of hiding .
    Any Questions ?

  • #5802

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    What ho Bellers !! Good to have you back. Alph has been pacing the rug bare. Quite a handy billet all told. Just throw in the odd reference to Chateuabraind and Baked Alaska and the locals pretty much leave us to our own devices.

    Anyway your room’s at the top of the stairs and your Stingray PJs are under the pillow.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5803

    bell boy
    Participant

    Baked Alaska !!!
    just how big is that Supervolcano in Yellowstone ?

    Psycho is doing OK so far .Thought his Team for Charlton was spot on but he seems to be going down the KK Route with regard to Subs .
    You have to feel for Macken (a bit anyway) Months without a Game ,then 3 one on ones with the Keeper .He must be feeling a bit Shell shocked .
    Neddy needs a few pointers on preventing Crosses .
    Dunne and Distin … what can i say ,everytime we concede it’s one of them who just misses out .
    Reyna … i said he was worth a run
    Ski … needs to come good now he is in the correct position (and i mean Game winning good)
    Musampa ,lively but not much end Product (find the Money somehow and get Commons )
    Robbie still averaging one good Game in 5, hope he can get this down to one in 2 … not holding my Breath .
    Wonder if we will continue with our new attacking formation v’s the Scouse , we should as they may be a bit fatigued after Juve .

  • #5804

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Bellers – spot on with Kris Commons. He’s really quick and scores a fair few. I reckon that with Forest looking certs for the drop he’d be pretty well priced. Nonetheless I sense that there is more to come from our umpalumpa and it may be that he ends up doing enough to impress for contract.

    The tragedy would be an assessment that a fit again Walford could supercede any of the current first 15 squad members in the pecking order and so render further investment unnecessary.

    I’m not buying into this Reyna rejuvination just yet. I think that Charltons ever changing system allowed our shape to work and whomever had found themselves on the wide right berth would have had time and space to look good. His workrate was fine but his pace is pedestrian and his defensive work is lightweight. It is inconceivable that he would even get a start when SWP is fit and Croft finally gets his chance.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5805

    Blend
    Participant

    Why would Sweep want to go to Spurs? surely even their fans haven’t managed to delude the press in to thinking they are a big club as well. They are nothing. Spurs fans make me laugh……….a lot.
    The only clubs he would leave for are Chelsea or Arsenal. Arsenal can’t afford him, and Chelsea don’t really need him. No other domestic club. bar united. can afford him, and he would never go there.
    The question is….will he go abroad. My feelings are, if Barca come in for him, he will go. But I think we will do all we can to hold on to him until the world cup. Then when he is storming, his price will rocket up, and we will cash in.

    Blend

  • #5806

    bell boy
    Participant

    You can hang onto your Purse Berko , no-ones asking you to buy anything .
    It’s just that Reyna tends to get lumped in ,along with Macca and Sinker .Not fair … he is a trier and will give it a go .He’s not a Match winner but he can be useful .

  • #5807

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Berkozboy

    Try it it’s a giggle – they could have written this one –

    Ingredient 1 = Taggart to retire at end of season

    Ingredient 2 = Ecclestone resigns as Dr. after one series.

    DC conslusion = Beeb unveil first jock as new Dr.

    I remain

    Berkozex

    It’s a well understood literary technique common to failed hacks – I think it’s called ‘the undistributed middle’ or somesuch.
    The classic example is:
    I like eating. I love the Bronte sisters. Ergo: Wuthering Heights is a chip butty.

  • #5808

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by bell boy
    Greetings mein Host ,….nice Digs . I promise to try to be on my best behaviour or at least ,to try to try .(i wiped my feet on the way in for a start )

    How many Forums have we broken now 3 ? .I was about to suggest we started a new Izzet Thread as 3,000 odd entries seemed a bit much and load times were getting longer

    I might consider archiving the thread at about 1,000 posts and opening another – or at least taking advice from The Weblords. Anyhow I’ll keep a beady eye on that one. Leave it to me.
    Anyhow, don’t worry about Chateau O’Brien or whatever Berkoz recommends as the Plat du Jour. Just be your old sweet cynical self and welcome.

    BTW anybody got any idea of what persuasion Chris Ecclestone is. There was a gnomic reference to the blue geezer on last week’s excellent episode which could go either way! Whatever, nice to have al this arcane Manc stuff in the script. Mind you when Chrissie slings his hook it seems we could get boring, boring William Roach – he’s gotta be a red for sure. Also I have a Doctor Who link myself. In another lifetime (quote) I was in articles as a solicitor and one of my mates was Colin Baker who quit the Law for RADA about the time I left to go to Lunding and the adbiz.

    Anyhow, enough of nostalgic drivel. Anyone see the curious Phil Neale interview in Observer S&M over the Heysel thing? I must say I find the claim in the same article that the Mickies weren’t into hooliganism quite staggering. I still have the burn mark from a heated penny fired from a cataput during an Anfield cup tie circa 1985-6.

  • #5809

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Welcome home bellers!
    It wasn’t quite the same without you!
    Alph

  • #5810

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I’m afraid Chris Ecclestone is a rag – of long standing. I did like the remark “Every planet has a North” from last week though.
    The game against Skiverpool will give us a better idea of how the team is going though as Charlton were poor as well as us being good. Claire is a useful player when he’s fit and given a clear role but he wouldn’t be first choice if other players were available. Never mind about Spuz – they just have lots of sad deluded fans among the hacks. I’m not sure Chelsea wouldn’t fancy SWP – Mourinho’s policy is to have just two absolutely top clas players for each position. He’s got two for wide left but only one at wide right at present. All froth right now though. Really looking forward to the game – fist time I’ve felt like that for a while!:)

  • #5811

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    I’m looking forward to the game too. Although the TSBs played uncommon well last night. Hopefully they are knackered,

    Berkoz, if Taggart is the next Dr.Who, who’s his assistant? Delia? Karen Brady?

  • #5812

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    With the General Election looming Tony Blah has pulled his masterstroke and got the Mirror to announce Robin Cook as the new Dr. with Mags Beckett as his assistant. It seems he is suggesting luverly Annie Widdicombe to play Davros.

    I despair of the British sporting press. After his first Euro game as Kop-end custodian and a pretty decent game at that, Carson is, this morning tagged ‘Calamity Carson’ by the unimaginative scribes in the smoke. For goodness sake the lad is 19 with his entire career ahead of him and his side won 2-1 – pathetic!!!

    Still, I bet he goes on to save 2 penalties against us at the weekend.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5813

    TUBI
    Participant

    heres another interesting little titbit from Phil Neal, taken from the football365 website

    With Liverpool facing Juventus this week for the first time since the Heysel disaster, it was inevitable that the media would be awash with features on the disaster.

    And that top of the bill in any retrospective feature is inevitably Phil Neal.

    Or at least he was for Sky Sports News’ ‘Remembering Heysel’ feature. A picture of sorrow, ‘he remains haunted by the horror of the night’ viewers were informed as Neal was shown sitting in the garden of his Liverpool home. The feature concludes with the sombre words ‘Heysel shamed football and leaves a scar on all those present…’, culminating with a shot of Neal tending to his lawn.

    Such an impression was certainly enhanced by Neal’s interview with The Observer’s Jamie Jackson in which he was asked for his comments.

    Neal: I’d rather forget that night. It was an ordeal. But, Jamie, why should I help you out? I’m helping you pay your mortgage [by talking to you about Heysel]. When people ask me for my view, they usually have to pay for it. You’re asking for my help for nothing. To pay your mortgage, Jamie. I mean, what do you want from me?

    Observer: I just thought that as the captain of Liverpool football club on that night at Heysel it would be good to hear your view?

    Neal: Yes but what do you want from me? If I talk to you for a few minutes, then I’m helping you pay your mortgage and what am I getting in return? Do you know what I mean?

    Observer: Well, I have been to Italy and talked with some of the families of the victims and they say that the trophy should be given back by Juventus to commemorate what happened.

    Neal: About Juventus? Why are you asking me? Why are you asking someone on the Liverpool side? Juventus made amends very soon. Ask them … Jamie I’m helping you pay your mortgage. People who want my views pay.

    Observer: I’m sorry, but everyone else I have spoken to has…

    Neal: Great. So you’ve spoken to people, you’ve got your views. You’ve got your Liverpool view, but if you want mine for free, well people pay for them.

    Still, how decent of Neal to show Sky Sports News around the garden for which his reflections on the death of 39 souls presumably helped finance.

  • #5814

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Lovely man, let’s have a whip round to help him pay his mortgage!

    I wonder if he was paid more in the last 5 years of his football career than you or I will earn in a lifetime!

    Alph

  • #5815

    TUBI
    Participant

    he clearly has a very high opinion of….well….his opinions

  • #5816

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    As I recall from that unforgetable vignette in the dugout with the erstwhile England boss, Mr Neal had no opinions of his own but merely repetitions of those pronounced by his gaffer.

    Maybe this explains his continued passion for turnips and other garden cultivation products.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5817

    bell boy
    Participant

    Alph ,of course it wasn’t the same without me … it was better .

    I’m also keen for the next Match , let’s stay with the Formation and get stuck into ’em .If the Team starts off with a positive attitude, we may hear the Ground come to life for a change .
    I think there is a genuine breath of fresh air around the place and a hope for better Times ahead .For once, we may as Fans, be able to enjoy a Match without waiting for the inevitable cock up.
    If we get a good pre Match build up (lots of up tempo rock stylee Music we will rock you, boys are back in town etc ) it could be like the good old Days (dahn at the old bull and bush ,eh Alph)
    I’m hoping for a fresh start kind of deal (hope springs eternal)
    Liverpool can’t score any more quality Goals for a while not after last Night .
    As Saffron used to say “baby i’m ready to go”

  • #5818

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    My tabloid of choice ‘The Mail’ reckons that Psycho is a Pistols fan.

    ..wonder what saintly old coves like Walter Winterburn and Sir Alf listened to in their cars on the way to games ?

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5819

    bell boy
    Participant

    I don’t know, whatever was on the BBC light Program ,i supose . If they even had a Radio in the Car in those days that is .
    Otherwise they could hum the latest Bill Hayley to themselves ,to drown out the awful Engine Noise .
    How times have changed , i hear they’ve got something called 8 Track now … can’t wait to hear that .

  • #5820

    Alphonso
    Participant

    They were good but….
    Stiff Little Fingers! Now there was a band.

    Also, for those very few of you old enough…..
    Chapman/Whitney’s ‘Family’ with the immortal words, ‘Rollin’ and Tumblin’ aint done me no harm!

    They just don’t write poetry like that any more!

    Alph

  • #5821

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Changing the crap pre-match “entertainment” would be near the top of my “Things To Do” list if I ever became head honcho at MCFC. I’d certainly sack the inane stuff from Key 103 that we have to put up with. I’d also stop any music in the last 10 minutes and simply let the crowd get going. On the subject of musical entertainment, a few months ago the first half had ended when to my surprise and delight they started to play “Whole Lot of Love”. Reminded me just how good Led Zeppelin are when you play them REALLY LOUD.

  • #5822

    bell boy
    Participant

    That’s the general idea guys ,we all have our own Fave’s (i’m very fond of “fields of fire ” Big Country ,”Big Area” then Jericho and just about any of Pat Benatars rockier offerings “love is a battlefield ” obviously .
    Just so long as it raises the Spirits and creates the right Mood .
    It’s hard enough to get the faithful motivated of late ,we don’t need anything to act as awet Blanket .

  • #5823

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Wet Blanket, now there was a band!

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    only joking bellboy, you’re head and shoulders above the competition! Acting wet blankets are simply no contest my man. We know we have the real thing 🙂

    As the Yank golfing lunes declare:

    You’se the blanket! errh! I mean, you’se the man!

    Why do you think we were all wearing black arm bands before you re-emerged!

    You are an Izzet legend, ranking with Kippo (Missing in Action), Captain Dunkirk (RIP) Fit Face Chadwick’s copy email (which launched the first Establishment v Izzet witch hunt), and Andy Pandy’s girlfriend.

    Dammit, can anyone remember her name?

    Alph

  • #5824

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I thought he had a boyfriend (Teddy). Looby Loo was the other character.

  • #5825

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Heard this t’other night, it might be very old, as jokes tend to take a while to find their way out here, anyway here goes;

    A man finds a strange looking bottle and when he picks it up a genie appears saying, “I grant you three wishes”, the bloke is ecstatic, “but there’s a catch, for each wish” explains the genie, “whatever I grant you, every Manchester United fan will get two of.” “Sod it, ” says the man, “I wish for a Ferrari” and one appears in front of him. Every Man. Utd. Fan now has two Ferraris. Next he wishes for £1,000,000 and every Man. Utd. fan gets £2,000,000. “And your next and final wish?” asks the genie. “Well I’ve always wanted to donate a kidney!”

    Made me laugh!

  • #5826

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Oh and here’s another, bit more appropriate to F’n’C

    Q. What have David Becham and Ferero Roche got in common?

    A. They both come in posh boxes!

    Once again appologies if this one is also past it’s sell by date.

  • #5827

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Hadn’t heard the kidney donor one – nice. But the other is old as the French Alps.
    Remind me, how long is it since you left Manchester?
    Anyhow Ferrero Rocher is an antisocial word on forkncork, what with so many nice Irish artisan choccies around these days. I’d particularly recommend Cocoa Bean, made in Limerick by 2 lasses who are both CTID

    (Sorry about the food excursion, guys, clearly a rush of Chateaubrained to the head – still, beats obscure sci-fi heroes every time, dunnit Alph? Incidentally I was drinking Amarone the other night, but nnothing so exalted as yours – except it was a magnum sent by Sandro Boscaini of Masi for me to road test)

  • #5828

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Blimey guys ! I would have imagined that it would be inconceivable for me and Alph to have bridged the vast chasm of our generations with a shared musical taste. ‘Alternative Ulster’ was the official anthem of 1981 Geography A level field trip to Gower. I may have mentioned in former posts that SLF still tour and were superb at Man. Poly 4 years ago. Jake Burns must be older than either of us. Bruce Foxton – Jam hero was on base but now plays with the Casbah Club whom he formed with the 3 surving members of Big Country. This following the untimely passing of Stuart Adamson whom bizarrely, in interviews claimed to be a lifelong blue!!!

    Tenuous links all round but all reported faithfully.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5829

    Alphonso
    Participant

    AH! They dont sing melodies like that any more Berkoz!

    My fave is Suspect Device!

    Alph

  • #5830

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    ….Nathan Tyson – who??? Is he the new Jon Macken ???

    I remian

    Berkozex

  • #5831

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Remind me, how long is it since you left Manchester?

    It’s been exactly twenty years and two months.

  • #5832

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    The Kidney joke was told to me by a Portsmouth fan, so it goes to show that they haven’t all lost their sense of humour since the defection of Hairy Redcap.

  • #5833

    bell boy
    Participant

    I shall have to look out for Casbah Club …. 2 Bass players could be interesting .
    Very sad about Stuart Adamson but if you listen to the last 2 Big Country Albums ,it’s clear he was not happy .Even so it’s still good stuff and Big Country were always superb live (memo to self must find time to play “final fling DVD “).
    If you get a chance ,listen to the Absolute Game Album ,Stu did some incredible Guitar Riffs with the Skids .

    In my defence if it’s a choice between wet blanket and warm cuddly duvet …. i stand guilty as charged .

    I have ,in defference avoided joining in with the Dr Who banter.
    I will just say this Tom Baker ,Nicola Bryant … dream team .

  • #5834

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I think Pompey fans are in need of a sense of humour right now, it looks as though they are in the frame as the team that suddenly drops like a stone in the last part of the season and gets relegated. As ever the battle at the bottom is more interesting than the procession at the top. Norwich are gone but for the other two it’s a case of perm any two from four (Saints, Palarse, WBA, Pompey) with Fulham and Blackburn on the edge. I’d love to see Saints go down for all sorts of reasons (cockney wide boy ‘appy ‘arry, Rupert Lowe, the disgraceful way they treated Paul Sturrock are starters) but it looks as though Peter Crouch will keep them up.

    BTW bell boy, I see Andy Gray has joined your campaign against 451, you should tell him you were there before him.

  • #5835

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Foxton & Co. have restricted their appearances to smaller venues and the nearest they’ve got to Manchester has been a small gig in Wrexham. They’re planning something this summer and have mentioned Bury as a possible date. They do some Big Cunt stuff and Foxton does a Jam instrumental medley including Eton Rifles.

    It’s Pertwee all the way for me.

    ….wish I could be like David Watts…

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5836

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Errh Hum Berkoz!

    Remember we are in polite company please.

    XL Female Genitalia would have been quite adequate.

    Alph

  • #5837

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    As ever the battle at the bottom is more interesting than the procession at the top.

    Totaly agree, the team that comes fourth from the bottom will celebrate like they’ve won a world cup, while the top three will be in deep discusion with the accountants.

    Would also like to see the Saints in the ‘Coca Cola First Championship Premier Division League’ or whatever they call it these days, for all the same reasons.

    Just had a thought; as we now have the ‘Premiership’, the ‘Championship’, ‘League 1′ and’ League 2′, would it not be a good idea to rename ‘League 2’ by reviving the old ‘Division 1’ name thereby having all top 92 clubs in the country in a ‘TOP Flight’ division?

  • #5838

    bell boy
    Participant

    Quite right Alph ,i suspect it was either a typo or an ‘homage to an infamous remark by Mark Lamarr .Either way “tut tut” call me mr Pot, if you like , as i did break a Taboo myself but still , naughty Mr kettle .
    You can’t take him too seriously …. Pertwee indeed …. i Scoff haughtily in your general direction (should that be General ?)
    No arguments about Nicola B though i see …. you must remember Davidsons “death ” scene ,where she was leaned over his body .
    Totaly gratuitous Cleavage Shot …. Highlight of the entire Franchise , for my Money .

  • #5839

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Sorry Alph, …forgot where I was for a moment. Hope I’ve not caused any undue distress to any hapless gentlefolk browsing from amongst the gurglers and garglers.

    Blooders ( sorry again Alph!) couldn’t agree more. This is from the same stable as the tosh from the comely Miss Berko’s drama teacher who regularly pronounces that ‘we are all special’. I am certain that if the FL together with the telly saw a sales opportunity there would be no end to the unfathomability of the league structure. Even our adopted Nefyn Utd. would be on pay-per-view.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5840

    bell boy
    Participant

    Stranger things have happened Berko .
    I saw a story about a Yank who flew to the UK to watch a west country (there’s that word again) non league side (Forest green ?) who he had adopted as his “championship Manager” team .When he got there the Match had been abandoned .

  • #5841

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Blimey Bellers, you ‘n all. I’m off outside to do decent thing.

    Tom Baker – Pah ! He has only become Folkloric (or perhaps Forkncorkic) following his voiceovers and a brief sojourn at Alph’s place in Monarch of the Glen. Pertwee had real gravitas, great hair and was superb as the ARP bloke in Dad’s Army.

    Bryant I’ll give you !

    I remain

    Berkozex

    ( sounds of french windows opening, muffled gunfire and heavy thud stage left)

  • #5842

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Now there’s a thought, Sunday League Premiership Pay per Veiw, I will e-mail my good friend Mr Rupert straight away.

  • #5843

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    I might be a new boy here but I’m now in hamburger heaven and I’ve made the 200th post!!

  • #5844

    bell boy
    Participant

    Very generous of you to give me Bryant .In her case i would have made an Exception and been prepared to pay ….
    Have her stripped ,washed and perfumed and send her up to my room … oh ! i shan’t be needing the Stingray PJ’s for a while so could you get them laundered for me ?

  • #5845

    Alphonso
    Participant

    A couple more weeks Erik and you’ll degenerate into as sad a case as the rest of us.
    Bale out whilst you still can, that’s my advice!
    Otherwise you’ll become institutionalised like the rest of us.
    Alph

  • #5846

    bell boy
    Participant

    Alph ,lay off Eric .He has just as much right to be a Degenerate as the rest of us .

  • #5847

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Patrick Troughton for me or maybe even Bill Hartnell. Tom Baker was the period when I stopped watching religiously. In my childhood days and youth Saturday evening meant watching the teleprinter jump up and down, then a full classified check read by the most recognised voice in Britain (James Alexander Gordon) followed by Dr Who. Mind you I can remember Supercar (with Mike Mercury and Professor Popkiss) so I’m a really sad case.

  • #5848

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    You’re showing your age Streaky. Far to much of the ageing Beatle about Troughton and Hartnell was too close to my Uncle Norman for comfort. Still I remember Supercar (..faster than light, and under the sea. It can journey anyware…)

    Does anyone remember the saturday morning delight that was The Flashing Blade ? Basically the Spanish Army taking about 20 episodes to walk very slowly down a hill to attack a French castle manned by 3 blokes whilst some poncey Gaul and his fat mate go off to get help.

    Superb TV and a great warm – up for the Banana Splits and then over to ITV for Dickie Davis.

    I remain

    Berkozex (aged 42 1/2)

  • #5849

    bell boy
    Participant

    All i remember is the Theme song … best lyrics of any TV Theme ever and just right for City Fans .

    “you’ve got to fight for what you want
    for all that you believe.
    It’s right to fight for what you want
    to live the way you please .
    As long as we have done our best
    and no-one can do more.
    Then love and life and happiness ,
    are well worth fighting for .”

  • #5850

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    The Flashing Blade is one of my all-time favourite TV programmes – the history and costume part was well done btw – and I really wish they’d put it back on. Francois de Reci was the hero’s name as I recall, though I’m not sure of the spelling. It was one of a number of dubbed foreign programmes the BBC had on first thing in the morning at that time, another was a wonderful version of Robinson Crusoe (originally in German I believe) which had a really haunting theme tune.

  • #5851

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Here’s a link to a site about the prog

    http://epguides.com/FlashingBlade/

    The other kids show that I remember fondly is “Battle of the Planets” which was Japanese anime IIRC.

  • #5852

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Saturday mornings only became memorable in the era of Sally James and TisWas. Also about the only time in his life that Chris Tarrant had any credibility.

  • #5853

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Brilliant!!!

    I think it was Robert Hoffman that played the part of Crusoe, a sort of Teutonic Alan Ladd.

    The FB was superb but you can’t help thinking that if only those Spaniards had walked a bit faster…..

    I’m pretty sure that the fat one turned up in some of the Pink Panther films. De Reci on the other hand, is probably the Frank Windsor of French TV presenting some Saga sponsored rubbish advising elderly Vichy toffs were to get their berets dry cleaned.

    ..and I’ve not even mentioned The Water Margin yet featuring Salford’s finest son…Burt Kwouk.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5854

    bell boy
    Participant

    Tiswas has been reborn as MOM check out Holly Willoughby in Schoolgirl and French Maid Outfits or covered in Slime and Cream (honest) Berko only watches for Cpt Scarlet … yeah right .

    Battle of the Planets was Naff .It got a mention on 100 greatest
    Cartoons … because you could see Princesses Knickers !

    How about another French Show, the Aeronauts .Two big French Movie Stars playing Crime fighting Mirage Pilots …. who never got into their Planes .

  • #5855

    bell boy
    Participant

    Ooooh ! Lin Chung and the nine dozen hero’s of Lian Shan Po.
    Now we are talking Quality .Remember when the Tatoo’d Dragon Shi Chin ?? cut a Bandit in half …from top to bottom ?

    PS You have to imagine that my lips are totaly out of sync with my Typing to get the full authentic effect .

  • #5856

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Tiswas has been reborn as MOM

    What station is it on?
    Is it on the BEEB, if not bugger! As that’s all I can get out here on Freeview.

  • #5857

    bell boy
    Participant

    Sorry Mate ITV1 .
    It’s not a copy of Tiswas but it is very much in the Spirit .
    No Spit The Dog ….but they have just introduced 2 Hyena Puppets .

  • #5858

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Erik wrote:

    As that’s all I can get out here on Freeview

    soooooooo…..
    Where’s out here Erik? We even get ITV on Loch Alph!

    A

  • #5859

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Miggle o’ French Alpes!

  • #5860

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Ah – I understand the location now! Reminds me of MCVTA.

  • #5861

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by BlueStreak
    Ah – I understand the location now! Reminds me of MCVTA.

    Ah, MCVTA yer acshul McVitie – used to be good before the refugees from DC took it over. I still subscribe, tune in now and again when I feel the need for the Ernie Little Ray of Sunshine Lamp. Otherwise, I’d rather be here. Much rather.

    Axeman, you have a nerve, as a recent blow-in, to nick the 200th. And I can’t friggin believe its 22 years! But then I’m 18 in Ireland.

    And I’m warming to Patrick Troughton and Billie Piper cos he’d stand about as much chancxe as I would! Though Nicola Bryant was indeed tasty.

  • #5862

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Berkoz, maybe we could get a bit of skiing in at The Axeman’s gaff on the way to Haifa?

  • #5863

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Valers – I’ve spotted a 1974 VW Camper van in Loot for 130 quid. It could be ideal for the trip. I can’t see us all getting into Alph’s Bentley and that extendy bit in the roof of the van will be ideal for Bellers.

    You can actually do the whole trip over dry land. There will be some tricky border crossings and hostile terrain but the bit I’m least looking forward to is picking Jenners up in Middleton.

    Still, the whole thing will be worth it for the mezze at Shuli & Guys’ who do the best Kibbeh Makli in the Middle East.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5864

    bell boy
    Participant

    Berko ,would you perchance be inferring that i have a big Head ?
    UNCANNY !! as in fact i do …. some of us need the extra space .

    To once and for all kill the Dr Who debate, Pertwee (Gummidge in a Velvet Jacket ) as i recall carried Dolly Mixtures ,whereas the Doctor (yes the proper one you know who i mean ) was always handing out Jelly Babies … No Contest .
    Can i just ask Berko , do you have a “Thing” about Collars and Cuffs ? Persuaders ,Jason King, Pertwee …. i sense a Trend …. i’ll refrain from calling it a Fetish .

  • #5865

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Funny you should mention that Bellers. It may expalin why I find myself looking at Lawrence LLewellyn Bowen’s cuffage with disproportionate excitement lately.

    Not seen too much in the way of sweetmeats from Ecclestone yet. He probably favours a pie and a can of Boddies.

    The opening narration of TWM could have been written for us;

    The ancient sages said, “do not despise the snake for having no horns, for who is to say it will not become a dragon?” . So may one just man become an army

    Classic !!

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5866

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    And I can’t friggin believe its 22 years! But then I’m 18 in Ireland.

    Niether can I, ‘cos I’ve only been here 20 years and 2 months!

    Typical bloody journo, always exaggerating the figures, if something costs £1.51M; headline screems £2M, so stop going all redtop Mr BV.

    Re: Trip to Haifa.

    Would be great to see you and to meet the other members of the Rosler clan. If you could time it so your arrival was on a Friday, we could get in a match at the local club AS Bourg St Maurice (http://asb.maxifoot.com/).

    It’s great fun as the team mainly consists of the local valley inbreads, all with the same surname. You know the kind of thing, ‘ Hi , meet cousin dad.’

    I’ll love them to get a televised match one day as the commentary would be a scream. “Long kick forward from Anxionaz to Anxionaz, Anxionaz passes to Anxionaz, crosses to Anxionaz, header from Anxionaz just wide!”

    Saturday go for a slide then to the Before Cafe to watch a match, it has the bloody awful French TPS satellite system but it does have the English Premiership ( I have the Canal+ satellite at home which is far better, including a better class of mucky movie).
    After the match and a few pints of Beamish in the Before, off to the Ancolie, one of the best restaurants in the Alpes.

    Sunday off for another slide and lunch at La belliou au Fumée, another match in the Before and dinner in the Refuge.

    Monday depart to Italy direction Haifa. You wouldn’t have a spare place in the camper would you? If not, I could follow on behind in the Panda.

    What more could you want Football, good food, drink AND SKIING, now yer know why I’ve been here 20 years.

  • #5867

    bell boy
    Participant

    Berko thats either outstanding recall ,good research or you’ve been reading the back cover of the DVD .
    Amazing that the Beeb haven’t re run TWM ,esp when you consider the success of crouching Tiger etc and the fact that the much inferior Monkey ,has resurfaced on Chan 4 .

    I’ll try to attach a pic of a slimey Holly Willoughby to show Erik what he’s missing (don’t worry Val you cant see her Dowies )

    I seem to be haunted by Eric’s THE RED , JONKER and now GORE COVERED CHOPPER .

  • #5868

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Gail Porter – she ain’t!!

    Valers – On a different subject what do you know of the theatre production of ‘I Keano’ that seems to have been extraordinarily well received in Dublin and is on it’s way to us ?

    I understand that amongst the toga-clad cast is a 6’5″ character called Quinnius. What more, if anything, have you gleaned from your gliterati associates ?

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5869

    TUBI
    Participant

    Theres an unusually high number of imbeciles posting on the MUEN today.
    Ah well, keep me busy and take my mind off work anyways.

  • #5870

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Thanks bell boy!

    Only used to watch Tiswas to see if Sally James was peanut smuggling, should imagine it is the same with MOM and Holly?

  • #5871

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Erik old son.

    I am warming to you!
    I might just accidentally pass that way one day.
    Gravitational pull dictates that skiing is not an option but the Trained Killer is very keen and would, no doubt, tag along, especially if I’m paying.

    Alph

  • #5872

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Tubs – Just had a quick glimpse of the DC boards. It does seem like Ernie and Bernie have got their work cut out repelling some of Brookside’s finest.

    It doesn’t help when the level of debate fails to elevate above the usual unimaginative ‘you’re s**t’, ‘no you’re s**t’ levels.

    It really does make you realise what lucky Forkers we are.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5873

    bell boy
    Participant

    Easy there Berko , don’t dis Holly ,she used to model Lingerie y’know .
    Speaking of G P, shocker about the “cry for help” eh ? .
    I know she’s very emotional but even so .

    Thoughts for the weekend.
    Neddy to show improved cross stopping .
    CB’s to struggle with Baros.
    Barton booked in first Quater for going through Gerrard .
    Reyna to go off injured.
    Ski to score and look good all game .
    Robbie back to usual, not up for it , form
    Macken to look better but get subbed after HT.
    BWP to come off the Bench and score .

    Any update on Croft’s Contract …. i’m beginning to suspect that he’s been made an Offer and told he won’t play again until he accepts it ….worry,worry,worry .

    If we get it right the Liverpool game could be the turning point we’ve waited ages for .
    On Paper ,they are better than us and KK would have played 1 up 2 holding in Midfield and tried to scrape a Draw.
    If Psycho goes for the Win i think it will be a big Step Forward , weather we win or not .

  • #5874

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    If Psycho goes down the one point road he is not doing himself any favours.
    It has to be three points or nowt, it’s sh!t or bust time. Severn games to go, one point or no points from the Liverpool game is not going to make a big difference to the final position at the end of the season. Three points could.

  • #5875

    bell boy
    Participant

    I agree Eric but he could also be thinking “can’t afford to lose my first home Game … 2 defeats in 3 looks bad ” etc .

  • #5876

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    I’ve noticed that I now ‘love the grub, hate the prices,’ how many more posts before Ernie can set me up with a nice little table at Troisgros?

  • #5877

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Originally posted by bell boy
    I agree Eric but he could also be thinking “can’t afford to lose my first home Game … 2 defeats in 3 looks bad ” etc .

    True but Psycho wants the job next season, the higher the final placing the easier it will be for him to negociate a contract. Losing against the 5th placed club in the league is ‘acceptable,’ a win a major boost. A loss or draw against a team like Pompey and it’s P45 time.

  • #5878

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Bit disappointed with Holly, bellers. She looks like a younger, fatter, jollier version of Tray-seh from Corrie.

    Berkoz,
    “I Keano” is not actually that funny. Wee bit too slapstick for my taste, suit the lads on DC a treat.
    The best thing about the Dublin production was ‘art imitating life’ (it’s usually the other way round) when the character playing The Thug downed tools, walked away from the production and took his ball home.

    Re Haifa – think I might take ‘Victoria’ my superannuated Lannie.
    There’s room for 1 other plus a legless dwarf – any nominees?

    2-1 to City v the TSBs. Macken gets both.

  • #5879

    iomblue
    Participant

    So, here you all are. Still rambling on about obscure TV programmes I see. Definite draw tomorrow.

  • #5880

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Manners – I was just thinking about you. My earlier plan to drive the BRA to Haifa falls apart if I have to pick you up. Can you get yourself to J.17 of the M62 or even the carpark at TGIs on Bury New Rd. ?

    Welcome home mate. Was it the scoff connection or Alph’s scouts that brought you in.

    Anyway Bellers has knabbed the top room so you’re in the annex.

    Bellers – apparently no Baros tomorrow he’s suspended.

    Prediction – 2-2 Another all action performance from City and Psycho but a late equaliser does for us again.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5881

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Great to have you back IOM. I’m over in the IoM soon while my other half does some bank visits (she works for the union) and I was going to popover to Port Erin and give you the address of this site if you hadn’t found it by then. Which of the establishments is yours though – I did a search and couldn’t spot it.

    I think we have a definite chance of winning, given the scousers have big injury problems and will have their minds on Europe. Mind you, if they play the way they did in the first half against Juve we’re stuffed! I do think a draw is likely though.

    The pattern in SP’s first two games is very like that in much of last season i.e. batter the opposition, create loads of chances, fail to convert most, concede a couple and lose/draw. I suppose it shows how much over the last couple of years we’ve missed a player similar in style to the Goat, i.e. a pure finisher/poacher.

  • #5882

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    manners, my man.
    Welcome back.
    What kept you? And how did you find us?

    Which of our homing pigeons has not returned to the coop?
    Kippo? anyone else?

    Just booked me erlabs in Croatia. Somewhere called Brac, I think it’s an island owned by my sister-in-law. Anyone been?
    Once they get to know I once played for a football team called Hadjuk Spliff I should be okay.

  • #5883

    bell boy
    Participant

    Great to have you along IOM but keep the noise down eh! Nicola needs to get some kip .

    Great news about Baros , that should make things easier .

    Holly may not be an Ultra Babe but she is a sweet and lovely Girl …so there .
    If you aren’t carful Val i might just consider your comment a Challenge and i’ve got pics of Aria that could burn your eyes out so be warned .
    For now i leave you all to your well thumbed (and slightly sticky) Blue Peter Annuals circa 1968 . Holly is no Val Singleton either .

  • #5884

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I once heard Stuart Hall give a talk about life at the BBC. He was a bit squiffy and this made him rather indiscreet. Among other things he revealed that Val Singleton was known to her colleagues as “The Ride of Nationwide”. Shows how misleading appearances can be. Blue Peter and Dr Who are very good ways of establishing peoples’ age – you ask them which Dr they remember or which BP presenters. John Noakes, Val Singleton and Chris somebody or other were mine.

  • #5885

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi there IOM. You were the one that I was most concerned about finding their way home. It was looking like Streaky was going to have to eat his way around the whole of Port Erin looking for a robese, T-Total, Manc, restaurateur, with a restaurant on the hill, whose wife doesn’t answer to the nickname, Romana!

    I am still planning to get over to IOM this year. The offer of the fishing visit to LochAlph is still open, it would be pretty good if we could get you and BVal over when the trained killer is available. He is the fisherman of the family.

    Wont have the boat until November, although we could borrow or hire.

    Need to liase with Berkoz tho’, dont want to clash with the Haifa trip!

    Still missing in action, mmmmmm, let’s see. Notably Jase, also Alfie15, BlueAlf, Bill in Spain, and from the old days, SW/SB, CBG & Bugsy, DJBlu, California Blue, Aussie Blue, and what was the name of that great lad in Thessalonika?

    It seems to me that the MUEn site is worth monitoring because some have turned up there. We only narrowly missed DJblu a few weeks back and that’s where we spotted bellers and ICSL.

    On the footie front, I expect a win tomorrow. The team have been working their socks off, the crowd should really be up for it and when that happens the team perform that extra few percentage points.

    We are a bit short of goals of course and Macken needs to step up. That last 90 mins against Charlton might just have done the trick. The side that started against Charlton have eaned the right to start again. A possible change could be Bosvelt for Sibierski but I would be more inclined to have him on the bench. He would be a good sub to use with 10/20 mins to go and a slim lead to defend. I agree that the Croft situation is uncomfortable. I see too many Etuhu/Elliot similarities, especially the Etuhu, ‘we’ve made an offer and he wont play again until he accepts it’ scenario. I hope not, that would be crass.

    I’ll wander over and see you if you’re in the same seat as before Streaks, you weren’t last time I tried!

    Alph

  • #5886

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    BlueAlf has been around – he emailed me and I directed him here, he turned up a couple of days later. I think others will turn up with time. I’m still in 101 AA10 – see you then.

  • #5887

    ICSL
    Participant

    Apologies for not being around lately – was going through the stressful process of being made redundant but at least I’m glad to report that it has actually worked out for the better as I now have a better paid and more senior management post than my previous wretched employers from B****** G**. So up yours, imbeciles!

    GREAT to see you back BELLERS and IOM…and anyone else I may have forgotten!

    I’ve fallen behind on the posts too but at least I have had a quick read through them all…found this from BlueVal…sorry I didn’t reply before….

    ‘RE the upwardly mobile bit, I think Pizza Joint or maybe Hamburger Heaven is the next stage. Unless “Ernie” decided in his webgod role to create a bespoke title – about as rare as non-posthumous VC’s – anyhow don’t suppose you’d fancy Greasy Spoon Famed for Obscenely Large Full English Breakfast, Icy, reading between the lines of Alph’s post on the Haifa trip…’

    Ha Ha Ha – I had to laugh – I think in keeping with the Haifa trip, maybe something like Turkish Baths might be more apt – at least I already have the tan!
    😀 😀

  • #5888

    ICSL
    Participant

    Oh yes, the football…almost forgot!

    I think we may well get our first win under Psycho’s management tomorrow – can certainly see us scoring. True that Liverpool are now only 1 point behind their neighbours in the race for the Champions League spot, but I still think we may well spring a surprise. Anyway, it’s about time our luck changed.

    Hopefully, Macken might actually shoot towards goal tomorrow and Robbie can prove Bell Boy et al wrong and continue his recent good form. Go on, RF, notch a couple against your former employers….

    Must agree with recent comments from you guys re the LEE CROFT situation. Has me worried too – I really hope that he is not just ditched outright without getting the opportunity to shine – strong rumours here in BOLTON that he will sign for Bolton in the summer….

  • #5889

    ICSL
    Participant

    Now I wonder why I don’t like ‘Hamburger Heaven???’:)

    Get me outta here asap – that joint in the Pizza sounds a bit more acceptable….

    Those Rags at DC (and a few City plonkers) haven’t got a clue…can’t believe some of the drivel on there nowadays.

  • #5890

    Blend
    Participant

    Howdy folks, been painting houses for the old man, and just catching up before I jet off to Trieste, Zagreb and Rijeka. Ah the trials and tribulations of a geographer.

    I’m thinking we should win tomorrow as well, but I’d take a draw with a good performance. Things are looking better, but we all know city, and the upcoming games will be the ones which really test Psyco’s ability. The post appointment adrenaline rush has probably been UHT’d by now, so now’s the time it all gets a bit real.. All things considered I think it will be 2-0 City. (fingers crossed)

    As for exiles, We lost Hampy from the old site as well.

    Anyway, i’m off to bed, don’t miss my drivle too much, i’ll be back in a week.

    As for a stop off in the Alps on the way to Haifa, count me in. Not only because of ME skiiing, but I would have thought seeing some of you old gits trying to do it would be mightily funny. Me Jase and Tubs would be the trainee slobs whereas you guys have had 50 odd yrs practice. (Bellers aside, more like 70 methinks)

    Anyway, what was I saying about drivle……………..

  • #5891

    Blend
    Participant

    Still a transport Cafe eh!
    One of those couldn’t feed me for Brekkie BV,you should know that, you’ve seen me eat after a weigh in.

    Blend

  • #5892

    Blend
    Participant

    ……and just in case you were wondering…….I don’t eat the actual transport cafe’s.

    Blend

  • #5893

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Incidentally, (and this can be ignored by the junk food body abusers like Blend and Tubs) there is a heck of a lot of good stuff on the Forkncork pages if you haven’t yet browsed our genial host’s pages. It always serves to remind me that what some folks call a job, the rest of us consider recreation!

    I’ll try and give plenty of warning for the TK’s next Dublin trip BlueVal, I fancy a lost ‘boys weekend’ (if we’re allowed that is)!

    I can see ICSL’s point re ‘hamburgher heaven’!

    You could get him struck off Vallers!

    Alph

  • #5894

    Alphonso
    Participant

    On Streaky’s theme of a few weeks ago, that is, KK’s legacy.

    Were I the Manager looking to next season I’d add to this a soupcon of the Mourinho philosophy of 2 world class players in every position (then delete the word ‘world’, we aint CFC) and see where that gets us.

    Goalkeepers
    We are strong enough in this department. If either Weaver or deVlieger are contractually saleable then sell, if not get one off the wage bill and then Schmeics step up to the No3 spot. Let’s assume deVlieger goes leaving us with James and Weaver (a bit of a risk maybe but…).

    Left Backs
    Thatcher and Jordan are good enough for now

    Right Backs
    Onuoha and Mills are sufficient at this time .

    Centre backs
    Dunne and Distin are automatic choices
    Sommeil has not been good enough (although he did alright at left back in the recent emergency) and Bischoff may be good enough but we dont know that.
    I would get without Sommeil (no fee likely) and take the £2m that Wolves seem willing to pay for Bischoff and then recruit 2 more centre halves.

    Right wing/midfield
    Shuan with Croft and Flood a half each. Both will make the grade if given the chances and by summer 2006 when Shuan will leave at the latest, we will need both.

    Left wing/mid field

    Musampa and ANO. Get Sinclair off the books somehow.

    Defensive midfielders
    Barton and Bosvelt

    Creative midfielders
    We have none good enough to be 1st choice but Sibs could sneak into 2nd spot. Macca, Negouai to go for sure and Reyna on the cusp.

    Strikers
    Fowler is a given. Bradley should be given fourth spot, he deserves the chance. Macken aint good enough, we need a class act with pace and strength to be a first choice.

    By my reckoning that means we need at the barest level the following:

    First Choice 11
    1x creative midfielder
    1 x striker
    sign Musampa

    Understudies (2nd choice 11)
    2 centre halves
    1 left midfielder
    1 striker

    Get off the books
    1x keeper
    Sommeil, Bischoff, Macca, Sinclair, Negouai, Macken

    (I would keep Reyna and Sun as utility players and look to bring through the Dairy leas, Ireland and Sturridge as the next generation of Youth successes).

    That means 9 players off the books this summer (inc Anelka and McCarthy gone already) and 7 players coming in.

    I doubt if the leavers will achieve more than say an optimistic £3mil tops (£9 mil total with the Elk fee) and most of that would be Bischoff if he goes, but there would be at least 5 big and v.big earners in amongst them (inc Elk).

    If Psycho were allowed to spend £7/8 mil on the three 1st 11 priority areas then that with the wages saved and some clever short term Bosman types for cover, should ensure all situations covered for a modestly better starting position for next season.

    So what about KK’s legacy? It could be worse, it could be as bad a squad as he inherited from Joe! That being said, there is very little there to show for over £50m net expenditure in transfer fees, is there? What’s more, without the youngsters like (Shuan/Joey/Jordan/ Willo/Crofty/Bradley) it would look dire indeed?

    Ah well, cant put it off any longer, better get the lawn mowed!

    Alph

  • #5895

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Hope your new designation is more ethnically acceptable and politically anodyne enough.
    I sort of had ‘On the 8th Day..” in mind. Is it still going? Anyone know?

    Agree re Crofty. Worrying.

  • #5896

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    On the 8th day is going from strength to strength, new building but same site, the store bit has really taken off. Off to the ground shortly, let’s stuff the scousers!

  • #5897

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Blend

    As for a stop off in the Alps on the way to Haifa, count me in. Not only because of ME skiiing, but I would have thought seeing some of you old gits trying to do it would be mightily funny. Me Jase and Tubs would be the trainee slobs whereas you guys have had 50 odd yrs practice. (Bellers aside, more like 70 methinks)

    Bloody young whippersnapper. I’ve had your status demoted to a food emporium more befitting comments like the above. Your old man will explain the significance thereof, I’m sure.

    Good win today boys. My faith in Umpalumpa seems to be justifying iteself.And his work rate certainly couldn’t be questioned so will the knockers (not on this site, I hasten to add) please lay off.
    Dunny and Dizzy had another mega and I thought Jordan and Neddie played well and sensibly. Boz also. Joey was.. Joey, win a few, lose a few; good passes, bad passes but huge committment. Good to see Pyscho give Bradders and Croft a go.
    I thought Sibs did reasonably in the Macken role which is not really for him – but we’ve got to get a big, quick striker up there next season or put horsemuck in Bradley’s boots.
    I liked the way SP varied the play tactically when he brought the kids on – KK would have stuck with the same old ploy.
    More progress methinks.

  • #5898

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    What a great day, Charles marries Psycho, Camilla wins the Grand National and we get three points! Not only that but is dumping down with snow and sun is forecast for tomorrow!! I’m now off to celebrate.

  • #5899

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by BlueStreak
    Blue Peter and Dr Who are very good ways of establishing peoples’ age – you ask them which Dr they remember or which BP presenters. John Noakes, Val Singleton and Chris somebody or other were mine.

    Wasn’t he Chris Trace? There was also, if I remember, a Peter Perv (or was it ‘Purves’?)

  • #5900

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Just noticed my new status!! Nearly fell of the chair, my god I’d forgotten about that incedent! I suppose I’ll have to stop off at Wheelers before I arrive in my nirvarna of Troisgros?

  • #5901

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    To make things even better I just heard Norwich have stuffed the rags 2-0! Get in there!:D

  • #5902

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Great news!!

    Mind you, we think MUEN is infantile have you ever looked at TSB infants

  • #5903

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    See Ashton scored one, made one against the Rags. Such a pity we didn’t buy him. More intelligent and sharper than Jon Mac and a good header of the ball too. I think he would have fitted in nicely. Mind you, looks like the future could be Bradley and flick-ons or a quick low ball across the box. Very impressed today, he looked sharp and up for it.
    Streak, I don’t know where Man City Mad get their match reports from but it has to be a pro-Pool site. And the match ratings..pah!!!
    Forgot to mention Claire in my earlier post – good game I thought, especially the 20 mins before half time. Can’t fault him for effort as Alph (was it?) says.

  • #5904

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    A very satisfying result. The first half was rather scrappy and disjointed, Liverpool tended to have more of the ball but they only had one real chance when James made a good save, reacting quickly to clear the ball. (They didn’t have a corner IIRC) We had some good chances but Carson made one good save and Sibby made a hash of a great chance set up by Barton. In the second half we began to play much better and put them under some serious pressure. Only Stephen Gerrard posed any real threat from their side – he had a great run and shoot down their right at the end but fortunately put it into the side netting. The crowd, which had been rather subdued in the first half really got going in the last half an hour, they were set off by an incident when the linesman on our side (a total incompetent) gave a particularly bad decision against Dunhino. However we were being undone by our big problem – lack of pace – until Pearce brought Croft and BWP on. Straight away we were more menacing and it’s no coincidence that they were the two who set up Kiki.

    James – a couple of decent stops and handled any crosses well.

    Jordan – calm and efficient, played very well. linked up well with Kiki.

    Dunne – immense, another top performance and totally shut Morientes out.

    Distin – also outstanding, won everything in the air.

    Nedum – good and very quick but just a bit shaky on his positioning. He’s a cb basically and it shows. Still a good performance though. Went off with a thigh strain.

    Mills – best game for a long time.

    Bosvelt – just a bit off the pace in the first half but did his usual job. He was the right person to sub though.

    Barton – fantastic game, he has so much drive and energy. gradually got on top in midfield and gave his mate Stevie G a hard time.

    Reyna – a really good performance, particularly in the last 30 minutes of the first half. The subbing was spot on because he was starting to tire and couldn’t do the wide rmf job but having him in cmf rather than Bosvelt gave us just a bit more pace through the middle. Defended well too.

    Kiki – MotM for me and not just because he got a goal and nearly another as well. He wins the ball, defends well, his passing is very good and once he has the ball it’s almost impossible to get it off him.

    Sibby – poor I’m afraid. He was outmuscled in the air and is just too slow for this league.

    Fowler – lots of good touch and vision but not much goal threat. He’s becoming a Bergkamp kind of player imo, rather than an all out striker.

    Croft – played very well, keen and sharp. A really good cross for the goal.

    Bradley – looked sharp and keen, helped set up the goal as for the first time in god knows how long we counterattacked with purpose and PACE. He’s been very out of sorts in the reserves lately so this was very good to see. Inches away from getting a second goal.

    Overall a very good team performance. The best thing was the intelligent use of subs. The bad point was the complete waste of several free kicks and the very poor corners (mind you theirs were shite as well).

  • #5905

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    I thought Barton improved after half time. He gave the ball away a lot in the first half hour. By the end he was terrific, still driving them on. I can see Berkoz’s “captain” bit.
    Streak, I felt sorry for Sibs. He was asked (once again) to do a job for which he is totally unsuited. I thought he played great in the hole, last two games. But he’s not physical enough to hold up play and his heading seems to have deteriorated the longer he plays for us (confidence thing?).
    Croft (first time I’ve seen him) didn’t look all that quick but he did some intelligent things.
    Kiki was M-O-M for me. He scored, hit post. Got into some great positions, always did something intelligent with the ball, good quick layoffs, then moved to re-form the triangle or ran at people and also tracked back well. His positional sense was immaculate, always gave Jordan the option of passing up the line and Fowler and Sibs the option of going left, making himself available. What’s more there was a crackle about his play, when he got the ball, people (team mates and crowd) were expecting him to do things and that’s always a great sign. Macpointy should be made to clean his boots tonight.
    Re the opposition they were by no means as bad as has been painted – miles better than Charlton last week. I thought Gerrard played much too deep though.

  • #5906

    TUBI
    Participant

    brilliant play from BWP to play in Crofty….excellent vision and pass to Mufasa and a brilliant finish in the last friggin minute…top result.

    Anyone else really starting to warm to psycho?

    😀

  • #5907

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Sorry to have missed you Streaky, the saintly Mrs Alph was travelling up from Farnborough and got stuch in traffic coming across from Sheffield. I was stood outside the gate for 40 minutes waiting and only just got in for KO. We’ll try again next match and endeavour to have a jug.

    Well now, not a particularly threatening ‘Pool performance, even so, if le Tallec had put his shooting boots on we could have been a couple down and struggling. That’s the rub of the green and we have deserved the breaks.

    It looked to me as though Ned started a bit nervously and was tentative for much of the game. A touch of the wobbles that all young players get after the adrenaline rush of their first few games. Psycho could have brought the BOLB on a bit earlier for me and we looked alot more secure when he did. I fancy it’s time to drop Ned back to the bench for a few games and concentrate on Croft and Bradley. It’s probably fair to say that the young guns should make their starts one at a time to give them the very best chance to bed into a settled environment. I would accelerate Croft ahead of Bradley in the starting stakes. He has masses of talent, looks very fit and strong, oozes confidence and clearly fancies himself a bit! Do we think he might have ‘pissed off’ KK by being a bit too ‘forward’? He’s the same age as Willo and Bradley and Ned is two years younger. There has been something going on there surely?

    I’ll drink to the ‘new swift strong striker’ bit BlueVal. When the Delias go down I’d settle for Ashton, maybe? He should be affordable and of the right type to play alongside Robbie.

    Sibs got little change from Pellegrino (blimey isn’t he huge!) but kept the centre halves busy. Reyna looked better in the 2nd half, especially when he moved inside and Croft came on. Bozzer had a bit of a ‘mare. Never at the races. Another good performance from the dreadlocked one, at last the left hand side has a bit of threat. You have to admire that scoring volley. After a couple or three that had gone miles wide in the previous game and earlier in this, he might have been excused for taking the touch, instead; bam, Goal!

    Good for Kiki on his MOM and I wont argue too much, but for me Dunnie was a monster in the defence again and Robbie is a class above the rest.

    Nice one Stuart. The result was very good thank you, but the performance was everything I could have hoped for,(being realistic about the qualities of the squad).

  • #5908

    Alphonso
    Participant

    5:13 am!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    TUBI old son, don’t ever meet up with Blend, you’d NEVER get any sleep, either of you!!

    Alph

  • #5909

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    What is there to do at that time of the morning in mid-Wales? On second thoughts don’t answer that! I agree it may be time to rest Ned a bit now Mills has hopefully got his act together. As I say he’s really a cb and a very good one, who can fill in at fb. The story behind Croft is this. He started like the proverbial house on fire as a teenager and became a fixture in various England under-18 teams. He progressed well in the reserves as well. However last season and in the first part of this one his progress came to a stop. I think the reason was that firstly he spent too much time at international youth football and not enough at the academy. the real problem though was one that is an increasingly serious one at reserve team football, that it’s basically just youth players so young stars don’t get tested against older, more physical ,players. He began to sort himself out just before Christmas when he gave up the internationals and going to Oldham was ideal, did him a power of good. I was very glad to see him come on and I think he should certainly get a half at least against Fulham, maybe a start. Bullton are interested so we should make a big effort to hold on to him. I’d keep him over Willo if it came to a choice because while Willo is quicker, he realy does need to bulk up.

    There’s no chance of getting Ashton, Naarwich paid a few million for him so they’d want all of that back at least.

  • #5910

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Alph, I’d say navigation is not “the saintly Mrs Alph”‘s long suit. Farnborough to Manchester via Sheffield? Or have they re-routed the A34/M5/M6 since I kissed Britain’s tarmac farewell?

    BTW did anyone notice who the unused sub was?? – Neggy!!
    Has SP seen something in him the rest of us haven’t? So whither Sommeil – injured? Or not considered good enough? Or was Neggy in there as Boz/Claire cover? And does this mean we might sign him again?
    In any event looks like maybe we won’t see Crofty and Willo on the bench together in the forseable.

  • #5911

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    from MUEN

    … i hope fergie gives every single player teh famous hairdryer treatment that he use to give, criticise some of his players in public. cause that is unacceptable. but also a lot of bad luck cause thats the second successive game we`ve lost a player toinjuryin teh first half of a game. why don`t we ever get any good luck, chelsea are having all the luck they`ve ever had. also i`ve got a feeling that eveysingle referee and club is against united. and when chelsea do win the title, they`ll never becomew a biger club as united cause they`ve just bought the title. i don`t know what but we always get injuries to key players all the time in the last 2 seasons. i hope next season this doesnot happen. chelski have rode their luck. chelski have 16 1-0 wins this season, see how much luck they`ve had compared to us. the problem with united is finnishing teams off, being ruthless in front of goal if that was the case it would be us at the top of the table and not chelsea. not fergies fault. its the teams fault they are not playing as a team, like chelsea. ferdinand injured as well. just somes up our luck in the last 22 seasons. i would not call the 2 seasons as poor. but out of luck, we only had bad luck e.g. Paul Scholes`s goal against porto ruled out offside when it clearly wasn`t and then they score at the end and win. i hope that lines man got a conceince cause its gonna effect him now. mourinho would not be at chelsea. if he did not win teh champions league. he would not have won the champions league. chelsea would not be in this postiton and man utd would be at the top of the table. man utds profits would not be down, we would have won the champions league. no-one would be saying its been a terrible season and we would`nt have had season tickets prices going up, value of the club would be bigger, Glazer would not be able to afford the club and he would not be coming to takeover the club. all down to that linesmen. i hope hes got a concence, cause it is going to effect him.
    – Ronaldo, Manchester

    Sob, sob..sniffle…sob. Ooooops! Just had a thought. Is someone still behind the lines?

  • #5912

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Valers – methinks there may be a rogue Izzeteer at work here. Even the most incoherent and illiterate supporter of our neighbouring club might present a slightly more persuasive argument than that.

    Or perhaps I’m giving them a tad too much credit.

    All the tabloids seem to have written the same story re; Musampa leaving at the end of the season. Is it about money or team dynamic ? Is it that if Pearce does get the nod he wishes to put a genuine stamp on the team in his own image rather than that of his predecessor. Will Faz be the first major casualty ?

    I really get the sense that SP is using these final games to give the squad the very best chance to either make their mark or hang themselves and in so doing is composing his own KEEP/REMOVE list based on these experiences. I think that Reyna may have played himself onto the KEEP list and unhappily Mills the same. However I don’t think that the jury has ruled on Sibbers, Boz or Macken yet. I’d like to see Croft stay and think that he and BWP will be the youngsters of whom we see more in the coming fixtures. Hope so anyway.

    Has Jenners resurfaced yet ??

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5913

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Boz didn’t look as though his mind was on the game yesterday. It seems he has some family or personal problem which is why he missed last week.
    I’ve liked what he’s done for us but I don’t think I’d like to keep him another year. Surely there are more positive options?

    Agree that Claire has played himself inot the KEEP panel but then i think he was always going to provided they could keep him fit.

    Feel sorry for Sibs, he always looks a most pleasant geezer with a good footballing brain, who’s been unmercifully mucked about – left winger, striker he ain’t.

    I think Croft could get a start.
    And if they are going to lay out 1 mill for a player they could do much worse than Musampa – there ain’t too many skilful, committed, cheap lefties about.
    And yeah, Berkoz, I’m sure you’re right about Red Ronaldo. Anyone gonna own up????

  • #5914

    Alphonso
    Participant

    ‘Azzure Slasher’ has just surfaced on the MUEN, I have sent the company helicopter!

    Alph

  • #5915

    bell boy
    Participant

    A good win ,a solid all round performance … no one had an especialy poor game ,we rarely looked troubled at the back .

    So why am i annoyed ?
    Stu ,quite rightly called for extra support ,then he does the dirty on us and plays the dreaded Chicken (lack of) Offence .
    What was he thinking ?
    Could he honestly have believed that we would score playing Robbie up on his own ?
    Has he not been paying attention ?
    Liverpool were caught in between to Champs league Games and were not up for a Fight ,they were ready to be taken .

    I consoled myself that it was all part of Plan .That we would bore them for half an Hour then take them apart .
    Talk about Brinkmanship , what was Stu waiting for .?
    I can only hope that he has now seen the Light and will abandon this Godforsaken Formation once and for all .Despite the win ,i think it was a Chance wasted and Psycho has gone down in my Estimation .

    2 up front you know it makes Sense

  • #5916

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    The ‘contributors’ on the DC boards slay me. Today our friend Eric Wonka has resurfaced to add his twopenneth to the question of whether SP should get the job. Our Dutch choclatier suggest that 90% of the fans are in favour but adds helpfully that 10% are, as yet, undecided. Ernie ‘n Bernie are similarly enthused. This only amuses me because E&B are also the names of the angelic Miss Berko’s goldfish.

    Having picked the winner at Aintree on Saturday (but forgot to place the bet) I now suggest with some authority that we are about to achieve the unthinkable and take 9 points from the next 3 games.

    Gentlemen, slap me with a salmon and call me Mildred but when this month ends I believe that we will be talking about UEFA places with real belief.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5917

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Bellers – as the chirpy Babs Windsor said ‘ I like a nice pear’!!

    I think that indirectly this is closer to the truth than I intended. I don’t think that SP likes the lone striker idea anymore than we do. I said in an earlier post that I reckon that he is giving all the personnel at his diposal an opportunity to play in their chosen roles in order to finally and conclusively assess them and so compose his lists. I just think that he has recognised the limitations in the squad in terms of pace and quality in the acknowledged ‘strikers’ and has done so by playing them with his game plan. He has obviously had his suspicions confirmed and i would not be too surprised to now see BWP getting longer runs out in the games to come alongside Sir Robert.

    I think that this has probably been a sensible approach. SP obviously wants the job a great deal and clearly doesn’t want to wreck his chances with wholesale changes and upheaval. I think has has shown quite a lot of maturity in the way he has managed the transition and I hope he gets the nod not least because is inclusion as a feature on the Playercam is superb entertainment.

    Thought Piper was excellent value on Saturday night and although still some way off the saintly GP her stocks are rising as fast as my…………..

    ….admiration.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5918

    bell boy
    Participant

    A bloody mazing , i said a couple of Months back that you’d be booking Euro Flights if we took 7 points or even 5 out of 9 , i never figured on 4 …. Berko you are a Pushover.
    True, looking at the Fixtures you can make a Case but that would mean making History .City have never won 4 successive Prem Games .
    It’s one of my “conditions for success” along with more wins than defeats and more goals scored than conceeded.
    I can’t see the 4 wins happening but we could go the rest of the Season unbeaten and nail the other 2. That would do for me all things considered . 52 Points would be a good Return and set us up nicely for next Season.
    I therefore predict we will lose next Match …. i’m sure they do it just to annoy me.

    I do take your point about Stu trying out Players but i feel that in his first home Game he should have been sending out a more positive Message.
    One of my earliest ever Posts was about the need to make our new Stadium a “CITIDEL” that would intimidate Opponents .It never happened and we have suffrered because of it .
    The message Saturdays Performance sent out was “if you come to Eastlands ,expect us to pack the Midfield and stifle the Game ‘ not going to strike much Fear into anyone is it?.
    I will say this , at least under Psycho ,we kept at it and didn’t let the Game drift away from us, as has happened so often .Of course that may have been because Liverpool were thinking about Juve’ and just couldn’t be bothered to crank it up a bit themselves … we shall see .

    Finaly Berko , have you ever seen Alyssa Milano ? she should be your Type ,i’d have thought .

  • #5919

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I cant think of any side that has moved to a new stadium and turned it into a fortress in the first couple of seasons bellers. I am not sure why that should be but my guess is that the atmosphere is watered down by a third more new regulars who are less vocal in their commitment than the old core. Poor old Saints went most of their 1st season before they won a game and at one stage were thinking of bringing in an excorcist to lay the ghost of a Gypsy curse and the Pompey fan they’d buried under the centre circle!

    If you go to away matches at all you will know that we always sell out, sometimes as many as 6000 (when we get the allocation), and the vocal support is deafening.

    It will come at the COMS but it is a two way street you know. The team needs to offer up something to shout about as well as the crowd needing to lift the team.

    The strange thing for me is how quiet the ‘old north stand’ crowd are these days. They used to lead the singing , now they scarcely seem to raise a whimper.

    Alph

  • #5920

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    This is a link to an article about Psycho.

    http://www.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,277-1564327,00.html

    I don’t know whether I am just desperate for him to be successful or whether you lot will read it and conclude, as I did that you’ve gotta love this guy.

    Alyssa Milano – Hmmmm, quite nice but a tad latino for my tastes. I’m more yer well upholstered blondes type of bloke . Quite keen on that one out of Sabrina the teenage witch but it’s really GP all the way for me.

    Off to Oslo on Wednesday and so I really will be pig in s**t (sorry Ellers but you know what I mean)

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5921

    bell boy
    Participant

    Absolutely right Alph ,it’s up to the Team in the first Instance ,to do something worth Cheering .Up til now the Crowd has been in permanent expectation of impending Disaster (it’s hard to bite yer Nails and cheer at the same time ) .That’s why i’d hoped for a more positive Performance on Saturday … it wasn’t bad ,it just wasn’t …? enough, i suppose .

    I have a friend who likes Melissa Joan Hart too Berko , Can’t quite see it myself but then he thinks Sarah Michelle Geller has a funny Nose … takes all sorts eh?
    So if it’s Blonds ,then you must have “under siege” on DVD right ?
    and maybe “chasers ” too .

  • #5922

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I agree absolutely about the crowd. Keegan’s last 18 months have ground down a lot of the fans but hopefully they’ll revive now. The reason why the North Stand nutters aren’t as vocal is because with the move they were scattered so there isn’t so much of a solid block. It is slowly reassembling though, something that could be encouraged in various ways.

    bell boy, I didn’t think we were playing 451, the way we lined up it looked like 442 with Sibbs as the second striker. I think it may have looked that way because of the lack of pace up front (one journo had a classic line about “Pellegrino winning the slowest sprint in Premiership history with the equally leaden footed Sibierski”. The point though is that with the starting line up we had there was no way we could play an aggressive, up and at ’em game – not unless we wanted to concede a couple that is. There just wasn’t enough pace. That’s why bringing Croft and BWP on made a difference, it meant we could move the ball swiftly rather than ponderously. The question now is whether to give them a start or not. This is the problem of Keegan’s legacy, a team full of players that are skillful and good in many ways but totally one paced.

    I still think we should keep Bosvelt, unless money makes it essential we save his salary. The job he does is very important even if hardly recognised (that’s why I think Claude Makalele is Chelsea’s key man) and he does it well. The problem is that at his age it’s hard to maintain fitness – you have to play and train continuously. He’s missed just a couple of games and a bit of training and he’s lost a crucial bit of pace. If he does stay he’ll have to train full time over the Summer. I think they’re waiting to get some indication of how Sun will be as I get the impression he’s now earmarked for the job Boss does.

    Anybody see the bit about us on MotD2? I slightly know the main person, very well done I thought.

  • #5923

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Not got those Bellers. But I did dupe the fragrant Mrs. B into purchasing something called the ‘Charlene Tilton abs crucher’ so I could view the accompanying instructional DVD with some legitimacy.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5924

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Originally posted by Alphonso
    ‘Azzure Slasher’ has just surfaced on the MUEN, I have sent the company helicopter!

    Alph

    Mais wee, Bluepiss! Forgot about him when I was compiling my roll call of defaulters

  • #5925

    Alphonso
    Participant

    “Azzure Slasher” hasnt found the rescue net yet.

    I was rather proud of this sign off on the MUEN though!!

    “Sorry? Who is on Nedum’s back? All I have seen is a few measured comments suggesting it was not his best performance to date. I tend to agree. There is no need to overplay him at this stage. He is a great young talent and should be nurtured. It is time perhaps to rest him for a few games, give Croft a start and bring Flood back onto the bench.

    Joost Attic, Uttosser
    11/04/2005 at 15:48

  • #5926

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    My compliments Alph. I had to read it 3 times but that probably says more about me. Wonder if Eric Jonker is a cunning DC anagram of something ?

    I remain

    Berkozex (on well past normal bedtime)

  • #5927

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Berkozboy
    Wonder if Eric Jonker is a cunning DC anagram of something ?

    I’ve been wondering about the implications of “jerk on rice” myself

  • #5928

    bell boy
    Participant

    You can say Ski was notionaly being asked to play as a striker, if you want Streak but we both know that in effect he is not actualy going to be a striker .Add that to Robbies new found desire to be a Creator and we’ll be lucky to make one striker out of the pair of them .
    Besides , i’ll use any feeble excuse to get an Aria pic in … so who’s complaining .?

    Berko ,you surprise me, both the Films i mentioned feature the Pnumatic charms of Erika Eleniak “sans Kit”as the Froggies say .
    As one is an action Adventure and the other a comedy, you can claim total Innocence of any Erotic Content.
    The Phase “but Darling it’s a 15 Certificate ,how was i supposed to know” should be practised for immediate usage ,when challenged .

    Glad to be of Service .

  • #5929

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Erica Eleniak??? No relation of Eric Jonker.
    Bellers, I don’t think Streak or anyone would assert that Sibs actually IS a striker – but that was certainly the role he was attempting to play – presumably under instructions on Saturday. I think Fowl now sees himself in the Bergkamp elder statesman role – hence the cute little dinks and flick-ons and the sweeping passes out to Kiki whereas a few years ago he’d just have darted into the box greedy to bag one.
    Personally I’d be quite happy to see him in this role as long as the other guy is either
    A) a John M holder-up of the ball but quicker (hopefully with shooting boots too) or
    B) A Bradley who’s happy to get in there and try and do what Fowl used to.
    If Fowl keeps fit he should still get his quota – not the 25 of his heyday but a respectable 15 or so – what’s he got? 9 or 10 to date? He’s still a good footballer and what we in Ireland call “a cute hoor”

    Our big problem next year will still be depth of the squad, or the lack of it. I’d be optimistic enough if everyone keeps (and Sun gets) fit.

  • #5930

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    No Bellers. With the Baywatch babe it was always the one big black eyebrow that put me off.

    This stiker debate could run and run when I suspect that we all know that unless BWP comes of age sharpish then we will need to aquire the services of another at the end of term. We need a 20 goal a season striker and none of the current personnel will fit that bill in 2005/6. We’re a charitable bunch but continually searching for the good bits of Macken and Sibbers rather than accepting that neither represesnt our future is decent but pointless. We could end up like Charlton whom would probably settle for a 10 goal a season striker but seem to make-do with bits and pieces for their mid-table status.

    Whilst very nearly on the subject of Dean Ashton ( still has a home in Manchester) did anyone see Delia on MOTD. I hope that Mr Smith is keeping a judicious eye on the pencil line on the sherry bottle in their kitchen.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5931

    bell boy
    Participant

    I’d Pluck her ,Berko…… or there are those Bleaching thingeys.
    Have to say though, when she popped out of the Cake ,in a black Thong, Eyebrows were not what got my Attention .

    Rumours persist that ‘Chop is unhappy … we didnt want to sell him but would the Club be interested in getting him back ?

  • #5932

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I’ve always had a ‘no re-employ’ policy in any business I have run. Things move on and employees mentally return to where they were rather than where you are now. Also, they only get one opportunity with me to say that they would rather be somewhere else!

    OK, so football is different, contracts get bought and sold, but the circumstances of the leaving are very relevant.

    As a footballer I would be happy to have ‘Chop back. Izzeters made a strong case for him starting with either Robbie OR Elk but KK’s rigid Plan ‘A’, Robbie+Elk and no Plan ‘B’ stuffed that idea. That was a major influence in his leaving I believe. It is one thing to be on the bench because better players or a more effective partnership is on the park, it’s quite another to watch a ‘****up’ taking place week after week in preference to oneself!

    Another and important issue is fitness. His injury record was pants. He jumped on a plane to Costa Rica at the slightest excuse and almost always came back with an injury that kept him out for weeks.

    IF his fitness record has been good since he left, IF he has retired from International football, IF he is keen to return, if he is on a free or near free, IF ALL of those, I would consider it worth the risk to take him back, especially as we don’t have the cash to bring in a substantially better player.

  • #5933

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    There’s no chance of ‘Chope coming back I’d say. He started well at Malaga but then faded and his injury problems are the reason they are open to offers. Basically his knees are shot, poor bugger, and one reason he wanted to leave us (apart from the one Alph accurately describes) was to play in a warmer climate so as to avoid soft tissue injury as well. It’s been clear since January that we need at least one, probably two new strikers. Ideally as said we want someone who can do the Macken link up/holding up role but also score and a quick player who can feed off Fowler’s lay-offs. We may still get Camara from Wolfs in part exchange for Bischoff (if Saints go down) for the second role. Robbie Keane would be ideal for the other role and is desperate to leave Spuz but I don’t think we’ll have the money they’ll ask for. Things are going to be tricky for another year, with the problematic squad KK left and no money, but we knew that. The other”essential” gets for me are Kiki or somebody else (and I agree we won’t get someone as good as him for £1-£1.5 mill elsewhere) and a central midfielder, although that might wait till January at a pinch.

  • #5934

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Hey, I’ve made oyster bar – I take it that’s Sinclairs?

  • #5935

    TUBI
    Participant

    I dont think The Chope is the answer, he’s not a 20 goal a season striker either.
    He’d probably only be fit for 50% of the season anyway….not what we need at the moment with such a wafer thin strikeforce

  • #5936

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    ‘Chope back!!! Oh come on guys. We could get that other bloke back that played up front with him for a while; the one who’s now king of Baffana Banana or wherever.

    This is the age of the Psycho and our Norman should be compiling his list of big bad mothers to play up front next year the top of which should be the Deano/Keano dream ticket.

    We fund this with the ruthless pruning of KKs failures, the transportation of Mills back to Delia as the makeweight for Deano and the season – long loan of Keano from Spurs with the option to buy in Jan06 when our financial position has stablised.

    We play them both together and here’s the extreme bit. We drop Robbie back behind them as the creator with the FEC doing the Boz bit. With SWP back on the right and the lad Commons bought from a relegated Forest for £0.3m on the left I offer you my 2005/6 front 6 (without selling the family jewels).

    Mount me with a Monkfish and call me Maisie if that doesn’t say silverware all over it.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5937

    bell boy
    Participant

    Have to say i agree, re ‘chop .I always thought that he was on the Brink of doing something special for us but never quite got there. I was against selling him because a) as always we were bound to let him go on the cheap .and b) we were not going to replace him .
    I mention it only because the Story has been rumbling around for a Week or so and there is usualy some small Element of Truth in these type of reports .The one i read stated that he had fallen from grace after a Row with Fans who were racialy abusing him .
    If that were the Truth, and Malaga are supposedly keen to keep him , i could see an interest in having him back .Alph is dead right about his lack of appearances for us and that would be the deciding Factor for me .
    As for Keane ,he’s always been a Player who starts off at a Club like a house on fire ,then gradualy fades out of contention and gets pissed off .How many Clubs has he had so far ? Coventry ,Wolves ,Inter ,Spurs and he’s not exactly due for his Pension .
    I’d want a friendly Chat with former Managers before stumping up any serious Cash, as the Term ” Prima Donna ” keeps coming to Mind .
    Ashton is a different Matter ,plenty of Promise but as yet unproven , wouldn’t want to put all my Eggs in his Basket either.
    Perhaps if we could persuade Norwich that we gave them Hucks , they might return the Favour, at £m1 he’d definitely be worth a Punt but 3 or 4 … hmmmm!

  • #5938

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hurry with the Monkfish BlueVal, Maisie needs it with a ‘tout ‘n’ a sweet’!

    Alph

  • #5939

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    If any of you missed the bit on MOTD2 you can get it this way.

    Go to http://www.divx.com and download the free Divx player.

    Go to http://www.norb.cwc.net/images/MOTD2

    Download all nine files, into the same folder. All are the same size apart from the last and should take the same time to download.

    Then click on the first file (MOTD.part01.exe) and install.

    This creates an .avi composite file you then open and play with the Divx player. Takes about 10 minutes max.

  • #5940

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Streakers……Der link don’t wurk 4 norb……already got DivX for downloading other…Ahem…Films…

  • #5941

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Strange try this version

    http://www.norb.cwc.net/images/MOTD2/

  • #5942

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Excelent Mr Streakers, thanks a million.
    More please.
    I missed MotD2 as I had a gig on Sunday and clashes with The Sheild; so I taped that instead.

    Watching the montage of Psycho reminded me of the Fawlty Towers episode,’The Psychiatrist.’ When the psychiatrist says of Basil, “There’s enough there for a thesis.”
    The oddest bit was where he went all KK when we scored. He looked like a turtle trying to get back in its shell, having just seen the soup pan. Then he tries to hump the 4th official??

    If he does get the job full time, who cares if the action on the pitch is boring, just as long as the results come in? We’ll have more than enough entertainment from the dugout next season.
    How long before the DVD of Psycho greatest moves hits the shops?

  • #5943

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Originally posted by BlueStreak
    Strange try this version

    http://www.norb.cwc.net/images/MOTD2/

    Funny how just one little slash can make such a difference.

  • #5944

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Sorry, the ‘Blow in’ does it again; just bagged the 300th post.

    It wasn’t deliberate honest your Honour and I’ll like one other offence to be taken into account before you banish me to somewhere like the Little Chef, Egremont.

  • #5945

    TUBI
    Participant

    I’ve said that many a time Erik

  • #5946

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Off now until next week chaps. Keep at the morons on the DC boards and don’t let Bellers play his music after 10 o clock.

    Early weekend prediction v. the Fayeds. 3-1 to City with BWP and Croft getting at least a half and another healthy dose of the Maccarena from our Norman in the technical area.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #5947

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Didn’t know MacCarena played for City but then again I’m a bit out of the loop over here.

  • #5948

    Alphonso
    Participant

    He’d be more use than MacMananamanam.
    Alph

  • #5949

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Vatican 1 – Monaco 1

    Which was odd as the scorers were;

    John-Paul 2 – Rainier 3

  • #5950

    TUBI
    Participant

    The Return of the Gary Neville diaries….

    Tuesday
    Ha ha – I have a foolproof plan to get rid of Silly Billy Philly forever and ever. It’s better than any Chinese burn and even better than the time I told Mum he had done a sex wee in the bath wearing her nightie (it was me! :-)).

    I took his phone and txtd someone to say that Sir was a ‘s***house’ (I spelt it out properly but I daren’t do it here in case Mum finds it). It will be in The Sun tomorrow and then Sir will get rid of Phil forever. Now I just need to get hold of Weasley Brown’s Orange (;-)) phone and I will be right-back (the hardest position on the pitch) at the biggest club in the whole wide world forever and ever.

    Wednesday
    It was in The Sun (with a picture of Phil, who doesn’t even have a moustache. He’s sooooo ugly) but Sir didn’t even see it – he only reads the Racing Post and a magazine about whiskey. And anyway, Sir is letting us bring games in this week instead of doing training because he says it’s only Norwich on Saturday. I beat Alan at Buckaroo but lost at Ludo to Wayne, who kept eating all the little pieces.

    Thursday
    I can’t believe the Scousers and Cheating Chelsea won in Europe – though they were playing really, really rubbish teams. The best team in the whole wide world would probably have scored ten goals in both games. And we would definitely have scored 20 goals if we cheated like Chelsea and spent lots and lots and lots of money. If they are jammy and ‘win’ the Premiership it won’t really count. At United we don’t count the year that Blackburn ‘won’ it either, which means that we won five titles in a row! I made a trophy out of cardboard for Sir because the nasty FA wouldn’t give us the real one 🙁

    Friday
    Still no invitation to the royal wedding even though I am probably the second most famous person in England. I’m calling a royal strike and am from now on refusing to use anything connected with royalty, which means I’ve had to give my pocket money back to Mum and I have to buy a franking machine for my fan mail (Sir and David never reply but they’re very, very busy).

    Sir said we could all go out because we’re only playing Norwich tomorrow, so I went to a concert with Paul Scholes. Well, he went and I kind of followed him, but I’m sure he would have invited me if he knew that I like Ocean Colour Scene too. Paul’s a really good dancer. I don’t like the taste of wine or beer (ugh) so I drunk Red Bull, which was nice but made me feel a bit squiffy. I fell over and a little boy laughed at me. So I held him down and knuckled his head until he said that he would love to have a moustache even half as bushy as mine.

    Saturday
    Sir’s so clever – he made the FA move the Norwich game so he could watch the Grand National in peace. One of the trainees joked yesterday that it was so Ruud could race before the game but I didn’t think it was funny so told Sir. He probably won’t walk again. Will teach him to laugh at the best striker in the world who is miles better than that bloke at Arse-nal.

    Later: It’s not fair. Norwich (who are you?) cheated and the referee cheated (as usual) and even though we were miles better they still won. I hope they get relegated because they’re just nobodies with a nothing stadium. Sir was right not to talk to the press because they will probably say we were rubbish and we weren’t – they just cheated.

    Kicked Phil because he was rubbish.

    Sunday
    Watched Match of the Day and I was right, No-rwich cheated. Watched a video of Dr Who with Phil and he got sticky-out trousers when Billie came on so I flicked it with a rubber band. Spent the rest of the day watching MUTV, who are the only people who are not biased and know that we are still the best team in the whole wide world ever. I was on pretending that I thought we’d let ourselves down against Norwich but I had my fingers crossed so it doesn’t count. Mum says I looked handsome and that girls will want to kiss me. But everyone knows girls smell.

    Monday
    Sir is being very, very clever and attention away from losing (boo) on Saturday by blaming Arsenal for the FA Cup semi-finals being held in Cardiff. He’s not happy at all with the Cardiff semis. And I’m not surprised because I’ve seen Ryan’s and it’s really not that impressive…

  • #5951

    TUBI
    Participant

    Is there an Izzet Conference in Turkmenistan i wasn’t invited to?:confused:

  • #5952

    bell boy
    Participant

    Yes .
    I was invited but my Head was too big for the VW Camper after all .
    Funny Bloke that Neville , i remember a naughty cartoon Character called “Head Girl” … does Gary provide a similar Service ?

    Psycho is doing himself no harm of late … looks like he is using Training Sessions to practise set pieces and defending same .
    Just the sort of thing we have been begging for ,for Months .
    There may yet be enough left of our Squad to make a decent Team, if they are motivated and coached to a decent Standard .
    I was apalled when DJ said KK usualy had 5 a side kick abouts in his training Sessions .I honestly hope he was joking but it would explain one hell of a lot if it’s true .

    Commons scored again i see , he may be doing too well and pricing himself out of our reach .Shame that .

  • #5953

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Some news on the reserves front, a good game last night with the barcodes stuffed five nil. Two goals each for Neggy and Ishmael Miller and one for BWP. Flood was in top form as was Ireland. The Negster might actually have a future at the club as a striker, the year long ‘conversion, seems to be bearing fruit. Miller is going to be the next surprise arrival, towards the end of next season. He’s big, the proverbial brick s***house in fact, and quick as well with good control. Just been breaking into the stiffs this year. The result last night plus some others sets up an exciting end to the season as this will show

    http://www.premierleague.com/fapl.rac?command=forwardOnly&nextPage=enCompReservesNorth

    As you’ll see there are now only two teams in with a chance of winning the reserve league, ourselves and the rags. The last game of the season for them and us is the mini-derby at Altrincham on the 28th. Before then we play Notts Forest (a) on the 18th and Liverpool (h) on the 26th. They play Bullton and Wolfs. So it will probably all turn on that last game with us needing a win to get the title (although we do need a favour from Bullton or Wolfs because their goal difference is much better). I’m going!

  • #5954

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I can confirm that what James said about training under Keegan is true. He’s not the only player to have said this and several people I know who have been to watch the training sessions at Carrington reported exactly the same thing.

  • #5955

    Alphonso
    Participant

    That one’s pencilled in for me too Streaks. If it is a decider there should be a fair old crowd. Where is the ground in Altrincham and what time do they usually KO?

    Alph

  • #5956

    bell boy
    Participant

    Well gee whizz ,thanks a bunch Streak , that’s ruined my Day .
    So during our 15 Game non winning Sequence ,all KK’s Talk of working on things to sort out Problems ,was just a load of Gonads … who knew ? And furthermore ,why in the Name of Jupiter ,was it allowed to Continue .No wonder the Senior Pro’s eventualy threw a wobbly, you just wonder why it took them so long .
    Do you remember when we were debating Woodward ,? how i enthused about specialist Coaches for everything ? It’s a different world with KK,or so it would seem ,OR AT LEAST A DIFFERENT TIME

  • #5957

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Ah Woodward bellers!
    What a load of pants that Lions touring team is heh!

    Florence Dayglo, Nellie Back all retired? I hadn’t realised we were sending a Derby and Joan side!

    20 English players but no Cueto!

    10 players only from the Grand Slam winners!

    10 only from the most consistent of sides in recent years with game brakers all over the park (Ireland)!

    At least half the English players are there on the reps from the World Cup they have done nowt to deserve the call in the last 12 months.

    Woodward, Pah!!

    Alphonso (storms off stage left in huff!)

  • #5958

    iomblue
    Participant

    Marvellous. I finally reach the time when I can afford staff but it is not yet that busy that I’m working every minute and what happens? virus that’s what. Anyway, the final straw came when the steam driven monstrosity crashed just as I was about to lay off some of my bet on Chelsea to draw thus guaranteeing a profit.

    I’ve now paid someone to fix it so it’s all systems go.

    Firstly, BV, Can I be in an office or something instead of a restaurant – I hate restaurants, have no interest in food or drink and can’t stand the public. I won’t air my feelings regarding chefs in public

    My extremely optimistic prediction is 10 points from our remaining games. Not enough for Europe but still enough to keep SP in gainful employment I hope.

    Berko. Don’t go waffling on about Sabrina the teenage witch. If you like pneumatic blondes try the real and original Sabrina ( it must be 40 years since I last thought of her) COR!

    BTW BV I like the larger font here. the other place used to kill me when reading long posts with no paras.

  • #5959

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Ah! The man himself is back!
    That is good. We missed you (probably more than you missed us).

    Prawn Cocktail (extra packet of sauce please)
    6oz Fillet Steak, chips ‘n’ peas
    Black Forest Cherry Cake with load of squigley squirty cream please luv.

    Ooh! ‘n’ do you do those nice mints with an Irish Coffee after, you know, in a wine glass?

    Ta, Lovely!

    Alph

  • #5960

    bell boy
    Participant

    OOH ! can’t agree with you there Alph . I thought the Squad was about right.
    England may have had one poor Season but they are in transition after the World Cup.
    Wales strength is in their backs and most of them got selected.
    Cueto is just a Baby in Internatioal Terms and would not even be playing for England if others esp Cohen were fit .
    If Wilko was playing it would have been an England Grand Slam.
    As for Bruno and Back ,we will need experience to get through a NZ Tour where every Game is a Battle .
    Don’t think Greenwood should go though .
    I am looking forward to seeing Charlotte Church’s Boyfriend and the Irishman with the Worlds worst Bleach job paired as the Centres.

  • #5961

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Dont agree mate. I’d have both the Irish lads ahead of Hansen but I’d have the Welsh half backs.Shane and Billy Whizz on the wings and that nice sound Welsh full back.

    Most of the English forwards have under performed. That fine athletic Welsh specimen must start at tight head and there’s only one Hooker in it. Florence can carry a water bottle and I’d be happy to see Nellie come on for 20 mins or so, he’s still going to be a decent flanker when he isnt in the pension queue. I would find room for 5 English fwds in the starting 15 plus Billy Whizz, thats all. There’s not a Scot that would start but Taylor will press his case.

    On your thinking bellboy, why not bring back Deano? He fills your criteria and was a hell of a lot better a No8 than Florence ever was!!

    Alph

  • #5962

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by bell boy
    OOH !
    Don’t think Greenwood should go though .

    Don’t be so bleeding disloyal bellers. Will is one of us, a blue that is – I don’t think he’s an izzeter
    I don’t think it’s a bad squad. I would probably have taken Shanklin rather than Will or even Ashia – he’s a great line breaker, good hands and competes well. Under-rated IMO. Nelly Back will of course make MOM all over the place and force Alph to eat his words.
    In every match this season (except maybe the Scots cakewalk) the Irish pack looked creaky and the backs, Drico and Darcy apart are only average. Murphy, potentially wonderful, has been pants since his injury.
    Is the England hooker in the selection? The guy who can’t throw? If so, he’s one I deffo wouldn’t have taken.
    Agree about Cute-oh, Bellers. He’s just BIG.

  • #5963

    Alphonso
    Participant

    No Mefyn Davies, Vallers, Woodward has gone with Byrne (good choice) and Steve Thompson (ridiculous, cant throw straight!).

    I dont think Cueto is JUST big, then I never thought Lomu was JUST big either!

    I personally like Charlie Hodgson and think he is a good fly half getting better but tell me, what exactly has he done to gain selection? The same goes for alot of the other England players selected. I will reserve judgement finally until we see the starting 15 and bench for the 1st test. All the right players are in there, they just need to be picked and stay fit.

  • #5964

    bell boy
    Participant

    Thompsons throwing has become awful over the last couple of years and needs to be sorted asap .The rest of his Game is pretty good .Hodgson can’t kick under pressure but is ok with the Ball in Hand .Can’t see either of them playing in the Test Matches .

    The Squad has to contain Players to play in the Provincial Games(which will be tough enough ) who won’t get into the Test Side .

    No Alph i wouldn’t take Deano … Andy Ripley , maybe .

  • #5965

    TUBI
    Participant

    Erm…anyway, back to football.

    MUEN says SWP is fit again, and asks should we risk him as he hasnt played any reserve matches yet.

    I say stick him on the bench and give him 20 minutes at the end.

    No point in risking him for a full match, its not like we HAVE to win, plus we’ve been playing some very good stuff without him for the last 3 games.

    Ease him back psycho, you know it makes sense

  • #5966

    bell boy
    Participant

    i’m more worried about how SWP will cope in the Line out and Scrummidge .

  • #5967

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Thought we had already played Bolton twice this season?

    Or are you talking about next season and the prospect of facing Wigan?

  • #5968

    bell boy
    Participant

    Oooh bitchy ,fair comment but bitchy

  • #5969

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Its all together possible that Shuans problem was caused by him playing too much football already this season.

    I’d much rather see Croft start a game and Willo put in 20 minutes at the end. That would serve the City cause more than risking Shuan too soon in a match the winning of which isn’t the be all and end all.

    I think we will win with a positive attitude and:

    James
    Mills Dunne Distin Thatcher
    Croft Reyna Barton Musampa
    Fowler Bwp

    Bench: DeVlieger, Onuoha, Sibierski, Bosvelt, Flood

    When fit, Thatcher gives us a bit more than Jordan who is still learning his trade, and if we were to start two other youngsters in Croft and BWP, I’d go for the tried and tested back four.

    I’d probably rest Jordan all together, as Onuoha can cover for any of the back four places and with no specialist striker fit, Sibs is needed as well as Boz. Of Jordan and Willo, I’d like to see Willo back in contention rather than a Stephen Jordan who I understand is yet to sign the contract on offer? I dont understand these kids! Shouldn’t he be grateful that he has had the opportunity at City to become a Prem footballer and concentrate on making himself a fixture before getting sniffy over the length of his contract? Am I just old fashioned? He is a fairly artisan player who got a really lucky break and credit to him, grabbed it two handed. Nevertheless, Roberto Carlos he aint!

    Anyway bellers! Your mention of Rippers made me see a vision of one R. Uttley Esq! Not a pretty sight!

    Alph

  • #5970

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Alph,

    What no McMananamanam…..

    Are you mad? Don’t tell me you’ve lost faith in him???

    If he is a no show what the hell are you whine about next Sunday?

    Boggars

  • #5971

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Mmm! Blooders!

    Either you haven’t been following things too closely this season or you’ve had a few too many bottles of that Sauvignon Blanc!

    There is more chance of me taking the lovely Mrs Alph on a rough guide camping weekend on the dark side of the moon than there is of me proposing the inclusion of Mrs Macmanaman’s favourite son, in a City squad, before the said, little lamented, cheeky scouse millionaire space waster, retires to his home in the sun, clutching his sicknote collection, later this summer.

    Un-equivocal don’t you think?

    Alph

  • #5972

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I wondered what that nasty spot was BlueVal, is there a cream for it?

  • #5973

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Alph

    Guilty as charged, had a ‘couple’ this post meridien.

    Even signed the wrong name! Tis one from another board.

    Well your reply certainly went off the Rant-o-meter. I have been following things but only since you moved into Fork Mansions.

    Win, loose or draw on Saturday, if Mcmana..(oh, I can’t be ar$ed doing all of his name) does not do his bird scaring routine what the hell are you going to rant about??

    Blooders

    P.S. I don’t like to pry or spread gossip but have your marital and sexual orientation take a bit of a twist, as I see you are no longer with the fragrant Mrs Alph but a ‘Mr’ Alph?

  • #5974

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Alph, Bellers

    bugger stripling youths like Ripley and Uttley. Can’t we get Tony Neary out of the nick? And what about the man the Kiwis called “the villainous Mr.Cotton”
    As my dear late mother in her 87th year said (after England had got stuffed at Lansdowne Road) “That team will do no good until they get some big, hard Northern lads back in the pack”

    My mother, like Mae West, clearly believed that “A hard man is good to find”

    It’s not recorded what were Mae West’s last words were but mum’s were “Up the Blues” bless her.

  • #5975

    bell boy
    Participant

    If Alph can’t find anything to go Mental over … i can usualy be relied upon to to fill in .
    Oh ! by the way Chopper , as founder of the “don’t sign Macca, not very popular front” i reserve the Right of first dibs on complaining about what a waste of skin Macca is .
    Maybe we could sell him to Newcastle , they may have a Vacancy or 2 the way things are going .

  • #5976

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    I’m not getting involved in the Macca spat though I did find the reference to “Mr.Alph” passing strange – even more surprised The Mad Axeman noticed as reading joined up writing was never his strong suit (sorry Erik!) Great man with a spinnaker though.
    I see The (inappropriately named) Flyer is hors de combat once more, this time with a broken foot.
    Meanwhile the DC lunacy is off the Crapometer – a quick plant that Pearce wants to bring in Nigel Clough as No.2 has revealed a rash of interesting alternatives – from Sam Ellis, Phil Thompson,The Goat, Des Walker, Barry Conlon (who he?) to Thierry Henri, via Brian Kidd. Wouldn’t be surprised to see the muppets’ fave Sir Bobby Robson or even Sir Alf Winterbottom or Les McDowell in the frame soon.

  • #5977

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    even more surprised The Mad Axeman noticed as reading joined up writing was never his strong suit (sorry Erik!)

    Joinedupwritingthewholesiteis P R I N T E D yer dofus!! If it was in your antique copperplate hand we’d all buggered.

    Bloodaxe

    P.S. Ta for the compliment on the kitework. But wasn’t it flying when we sank the aquatic ballroom of Abersoch? Which means either you’ve forgiven me or you’d forgot! More tea Vicar??

  • #5978

    TUBI
    Participant

    Well……apparently Gert is out for the rest of the season

  • #5979

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    So there’s a thought. Do we keep The Flyer with his plethora of broken bones and sell Weavs whom we might be able to get some money for?
    Or has it settled the problem once and for all, i.e. we keep Nicky?

    Note to Bloodaxe: It wasn’t your fault, mate. I just got excited having gone from going from 99th – 16th in two legs, cleaning up the Yorkshire Yotters on the way, and rolled it in off a wave! Anyhow, it wasn’t your fault I fell over the back on the start line.

  • #5980

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Three IZZET posts in a row on MUEN, the rest of the stuff was a bit ordinary except for a ‘Jens Ensleft’ special on another subject. We haven’t had an offering from Jensen recently, you haven’t offended him with a ‘roadside greasy butty bar’ rating have you BlueVal?

    The subject is ‘who should we keep this summer’ and was full of the usual we need Schevchenko, del Piero, Keane, Kleivert, etc etc and should get rid of the deadwood (list of 20 players) etc etc. Muppets! The Izzet contributions a little more measured I hope you’ll agree.

    Quotes:
    No 1>

    We have very little money to improve the squad and some of the poorer performers are on long secure contracts and big wages. What we need, as a first priority, is a manager who can make this squad of 1970’s Keegan era type, skilled but SLOW players perform to their full potential. Then we need that manager to strengthen where the biggest priorities lie with modern Premiership type players with real pace in their repertoire. Don’t even bother about listing a dozen players to go and a dozen to come in!!! It can’t happen financially and would probably be a disaster if done on Bosmans. If it isn’t broke dont try to fix it applies to the back four where we have 6 players who are certainly good enough. Complainers about Sibierski ignore the facts that Sibs rarely plays in his best position and never gives less than 100%. He is skillful, good in the air and slow. Get rid of him? Why? He can provide cover for 3 areas from the bench more than adequately. What we need is a midfielder with REAL pace and flair to play alongside Joey and keep Sibs on the bench! Kiki Musampa is as good a left footed wing/LMF as you’ll get for £1mil or so, so buy him. That leaves the striking problem where Robbie is now the creator/striker and where a big lad with strength and pace is needed to complement him. Parker would be a real asset in the MF but is probably outside our pocket and still in Mourinho’s plans. Ashton isn’t really quick enough but maybe could do the job with Robbie and might be both available and affordable. t isn’t going to be easy, certainly not as easy as writing out a wish list and criticising players like Bosvelt who has played his socks off for us. This season we started with a more settled squad after a horrific 2nd half to last season. The loss of Anelka and Wanchope has weakened us upfront but the emergence of Jordan and Onuoha and the progress of Joey has strengthened our defensive capability. If a couple of the lads make it to the top level as Shuan has and Joey will, then we can have a decent upper mid table season to look fwd to. Of the ones that have been mentioned and from observation at reserve games, Flood (excellent prospect, needs to get stronger) Croft (questions about pace but a good prospect) BWP(the most difficult role in which to make your mark but shows talent) Ireland (very comfortable on the ball, excellent) J.d’Laryea (competitive, head up midfielder) and young Ishmael Miller (could be a real beast in the box in a couple of years) look the pick of the crop. Sorry to have gone on so long, I dont post often!

    Blenda Myfanwy, Llanrhaeadr ym Mochnant
    15/04/2005 at 08:01


    No 2>

    Blimey bruce! There are some mind bendingly half witted contributors on this thread! I scrolled back through the posts, agreed with some measured and sensible comments re Chris Negouai and predictable rants about the usual suspects, shook my head over a few until I reached as daft a comment as I have seen in a while about Paul Bosvelt. Apparently he cant kick, pass, run or tackle and should be shown the door now! All of that despite being one of our most consistent and reliable midfielders this season IMO! On the who do we ‘get without’ and who do we ‘bring in’ debate, let’s stop and consider before getting all excited about signing the likes of Owen, Keane, Kleivert! We have very little money, the last manager bought/signed alot of players on long costly contracts and it is easier to talk about ‘getting without’ than it is to do it. I would consider James, Weaver, Thatcher, Distin, Dunne, Jordan, Onuoha, Reyna, Barton, SWP, Flood, Croft, Musampa, Fowler, BWP as natural ‘keeps’. I would further suggest that Sinclair and Mills would be difficult to shift, contractually and should be encouraged to compete and perform. I would give Negouai more opportunity, we cant afford to bring in two new decent strikers. I would shed Macken, Sommeil and deVlieger (injured again) and unless substantially better options became available on the cheap, would keep Sibs and Boz for another year. We will be short of a centre half if Sommeil goes and so I would keep Bischoff (if he will stay) or replace him with the £2m he will fetch from Wolves. That leaves us needing to bring in one new quality striker and a left wing/midfielder, all we can possibly afford before we start to consider strengthening elsewhere, perhaps Jan 2006. That means a retained squad size of 21 players plus two essential buys. That is a 23 man sensibly sized 1st team squad (ask Mourinho) supported by Ireland, d’Laryea, Miller and a few other young players who should be enthused by the opportunities offered to the youngsters this season and the success of SWP, Barton and Jordan to date. All that can be done for the (maybe £5/7m) funds available and would make for an interesting 2005/6 season.

    Alphonso, Izzet City
    14/04/2005 at 19:49


    No 3>

    Citizen B .if they are dead wood ,then we already know that they won’t make it DUH! By the age of 19 or 20 it should be pretty clear who has a chance .They will have already survived several Years of pruning . The message we need to send to these “possibles ” is ,if you keep progressing you will have a crack at the first team . Not, if you get a Full Cap for your Country we may still flog you off because we can’t be bothered to give you a Chance to prove yourself . How long had Jordan been left in Limbo ,before Injury forced KK’s Hand ? too long . We should be able to blood 2 or 3 EVERY Season .If we then have to sell them on, fine ,but a player with Prem experience is worth more than an untried one .

    bell boy, cork
    14/04/2005 at 14:23

    Discuss?

    Alph

  • #5981

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Yes Blooders, it was the Boggars that did me. Thanks for the tip. Any speculation about my sexual orientation has now been avoided by a timely ‘edit’!

    As for you bellboy! Of course you were the first to suggest that Macwhatsit was potentially crap! You are famed for your ability to spot the cloud infront of every silver lining 🙂

    Alph

  • #5982

    bell boy
    Participant

    As i recall it Alph ,there was no mention of “potential” or “crap” . Rather, that he was slow, shot shy ,negative and let others do his running for him ,or words to that effect .
    Had i mentioned the pointing and plethora of Injuries, it would have made Nostradamus look to his Reputation .

    PS i did note with some concern , that Psycho has spoken about a Reserve team outing to get Macca prepared for a return to first team Duty .Welcome to the Twilight Zone .

  • #5983

    bell boy
    Participant

    Alph, getting back to your 3 Posts in a Row (small fence) post.
    I see Andy,Mcr has come back and dissed you an’ Blenda big time Man !
    Major Rbuke for you about Bisch’s Fee and Blend for daring to support Ski …. other than that he likes you .
    Clearly this Guy does not know who he is Messin’ wit’ .
    I will be watching from behind the Sofa ,as it could get scarey

  • #5984

    Alphonso
    Participant

    The Empire has struck back bellboy. Indeed it has.

    You’ll have a laugh.
    Andy from Mcr thinks I’m a pretty depressed pessimist!!!!
    Now I suspect that is news to you?

    Alph

  • #5985

    bell boy
    Participant

    Been out an’about for a few Hours Alph just got back online in the last 1/2 hour or so . So only recently caught up .
    Read what you and Blenda said (she does have Spirit that Girl…must make you proud) Also saw that some Alph Groupie from Blueview days leapt to your defence .
    Thought i’d better go to all the ,time, effort ,expense and risk to sanity involved and show a bit of support too .
    Not too much mind you , basicaly just advised Andy to let it drop,by the subtle expedient of provoking him slightly .
    Doubt it will show up before Tomorrow and further doubt Andy will be back to read it (those threads seem to die very quickly ).
    Still ,had to give it go , show the Flag etc .
    Wonder how the General is getting on with the Vikings ? he’ll be most upset at missing out ,would probably have reduced Andy to Tears .
    I am a bit worried for Berko ,if they find out he likes Tony Curtis it could get nasty … killed their King ,he did .

  • #5986

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Tony Jenner means nowt to me bellers but it might be someone from very early on in the oldest of the sites (original Izzet) coz the Izzet call sign seemed to mean nothing to him. Ive posted some encouragement but kept it cool! The great thing about this site is that we post (or not) as the spirit moves, the posts are intelligent (well they are if BlueVal or Streaky post) and there’s something every day.

    We can always do with new blood like old ‘gory chopper’ but then he’s daft like the rest of us. What we dont want is the ‘MUEN Tendency ‘ that being said, that is where we will find alot of our old hacks and so I’ll continue to post from time to time.

    Bless you old son. ‘May the sun continue to set upon your half empty glass’! (old chinese saying).

    Alph

    PS
    Why cant the b*******s spell my name right?

  • #5987

    bell boy
    Participant

    I enjoy the odd potter around the M.E.N from time to time …posted on 4 threads today .
    Good thing about it is, there are a lot of posters and probably even more readers . Also they do set up the topics for you .
    On the downside, because they keep setting up new ones the debate on any given thread only lasts a couple of days . Furthermore, because it can take several hours to get posted it really buggers up any chance of spontinaity .
    There are a few Guys on there who are actualy worth reading , and not just the ones i agree with .Some good ideas and humour but also a fair few idiots .
    I have no doubt that there are a few who would fit in with us and would enjoy it here .Problem being how could we get them in while keeping out the unworthy (Lord help me i think i’m turning into Michael Howard .. oooh! yeeesss ,no don’t, it’s wicked to mock ) .
    I am in no way trying to be eliteist (being somewhat inferior myself) we are after all ,all evolved from Flatworms …it’s just that in some cases that Evolution appears to have begun a couple of Generations ago .
    The Fact remains that currently we are very few in Number (even if Alph has switched his sexual orientation, we don’t have a viable breeding population ) I wonder how long we can continue before we start to bore each other …Hello ,Hello ..oh come on ,wake up i’m trying to make a point here .

  • #5988

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by bell boy
    ) I wonder how long we can continue before we start to bore each other …Hello ,Hello ..oh come on ,wake up i’m trying to make a point here .

    Bellers, I have to say I found your defence of MUEN incredible. And your philosophising a bit unneccessary. Since I discovered the joys of netology I have posted on MANUEN – yes there are some decent thinking posters but a lot of total tossers. I still post though.
    I used to be a (very) regular contributor to McVitie until I got demotivated by the cockeyed optimists and the mega realistic doom’n’gloom merchants for whom the cup always had a hole in the bottom.
    I’ll happily keep Izzet on here if people want to post. For whatever reason. For my own part I have enjoyed the craic; enjoyed getting to know Alph (and Blend) whom I regard as friends at this stage. It was great to redisover my old mate Bloodaxe. And I get a great bang out of kindred anarchic spirits like Jensen (R.I.P), Berkoz, Streak, IOM, Tubi (You are invited, only it’s not Turkistan. Come to Haifa, I’ll pick you up on the A3 en route in the Lanny, mate) etc and, dare I say it, you, Bellers, you miserable but nonetheless true blue sod.
    All posters to any webzine or board have four options;
    1. to post
    2. to lurk
    3. to sod off
    4. to send a virus and blow the fucking thing to kingdom come.
    Each of us will take the appropraite option as and when we think fit.
    So why not just accept it, come down off your (slightly huffy-puffy) cloud and save your doom’n’gloom scenario for the on-the-pitch performances. And donate your fertile semen to http://www.spermbankofizzet.com to ensure our continued existence.

  • #5989

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Alphonso
    We haven’t had an offering from Jensen recently, you haven’t offended him with a ‘roadside greasy butty bar’ rating have you BlueVal?
    Alph

    I’ve upgraded him to “undiscovered gem serving real chips” just in case he was pissed off by “transport caff”

  • #5990

    Alphonso
    Participant

    That’s a good point bellboy. Originally we were an open forum thread on Blueview topics. When Kippo and I did our ‘Leon Davidovich/Vladimir Illyich’ revolutionary bit, it was all about the same shortcoming that you mention now. ie the constant introduction of new topic threads that prevented evolution of discussion and a timelag in the posting process that ruined sponteneity. We quickly sussed that the link on the mainboard of BV to ‘post a comment on the topic page’ always took the new contributor to the page on which the last posting had been made, so I simply made sure that was always us!

    We never had any sort of ‘selection process’ so we had our fair share of mindless prats and Manure morons but we also had ‘Bournemouth Rouge’ and ‘Eric the Red ‘who were, in the main, a good laugh and a steady stream of ‘occasionals’ who added to the richness of the mix. Also, the quality of alot of the postings was such that the amoeba of both persuasions quickly abandoned us for the single syllable alternatives on offer. My estimation is that at the time of the original crash we had around 40 regular posters and twice that number of ‘occasionals’.

    The second site, courtesy of Dougie Bennett, regained around half of these and Ernie’s lifeline has retained most of the regulars, with a half dozen notable exceptions, but almost none of the casuals. I take your point bellers, natural wastage might put the site to sleep eventually unless it can be refreshed.

    Incidentally, it seems that Blueview replies to emails/questions on topics other than ‘Izzet’. Discuss! Speculate?

    Of course, what we could do is post the link on interesting topic lines on the MUEN threads and see who responds. It’s a risk, Deansgate Central Division storm troopers might march 3 deep into Ernie’s Dublin Offices like in one of those old films……..

    Perhaps a less risky line might be to ‘invite’ some of the posters who seem reasonably sane to email for a link? Dunno…what does old BlueVal think? Maybe there’s a better way of gaining some fresh blood? Maybe we’re happy as we are?

    It’s Saturday and I’ve been at my ‘pooter for an hour already. I feel noble!

    Alph

  • #5991

    bell boy
    Participant

    Val , that was a long and convoluted way of calling me a Tosser. Anyone else would just say it .
    I really do apreciate you letting us use this place, honest.
    I did not intend to cause offence but we could do with a few more posters ,old or new .

    Alph .could be that we pissed Doug off after all .

  • #5992

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Typically incompetent Alphonso, that’s me. I posted the last before reading BlueVals missive! Somehow another page sneaked onto here without my pooter noticing!

    Good points all round really. I emailed Jenners on the details of his recent posthumous promotion BlueVal and expect his ghost to be suitably impressed. Damned dificult to pin medals on the old chest tho’ I’d guess.

    My cunning plan to contact Kippo is underway. MUIB either never returned to the MUEN thread, so never got my message or couldn’t be bothered!

    How’s about getting rid of that date under the scoreboard for the next home game and have a flashing ‘Izzet Advert’ now that WOULD be subtle!

    Finally, has anyone the anniversary date of Bloooooo’s sad demise? I have lost the diary pages for that year and it had the contact details for Debi and Jack in it.

    Blessings compadres

    Alph

  • #5993

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Ah bellboy!

    Almost impossible to offend, I know, I’ve tried!

    Tosser indeed! Don’t kid yourself, we don’t think that highly of you!

    Alph

  • #5994

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    True confession time:
    1. Bellers is by no means a complete tosser – there’s nothing ‘complete’ about him.
    2. I was not convoluted I was drunk (2 chards, one Clare riesling, Oz cab sauv, G&T, marc)
    Mea maxima culpa

    Thinking things over, if we can’t expand I think the probable reason is that none of us is your average football forum poster.
    That’s why we got drawn into Izzet – gravitational pull or somesuch.
    So for anyone of a more normal persuasion we must be a daunting bunch.

    This thread is now the second most viisited on the site – after “Dublin restaurants” with nearly 6,000 visits – that’s twenty times (approx) the number of posts – I reckon a lot of people are hovering. Perhaps one day soon a few will get dragged in.

    But of course many regulars probably gave up for the same reason I serially gave up building model aircraft, scrapping on saturday nights, bath wanks, writing poetry, the Labour Party, croquet, watercolour painting, folk clubs, morris dancing, developing my own photographs, playing competitive chess and hosting songwriter’s night at The Dame Tavern. Like I eventually got bored and moved on to do something else.
    Food and drink, boats, guitars and MCFC are permanent afflictions for me; everything else is temporary.

    Anyhow, maybe I’ll put a flag up on the site to say we welcome eccentric blues; also reds with an IQ in double figures (should keep the numbers down). I miss Bornmuffie and my old adversary Erickie too.

    But be careful or I might unleash Germinal on you (posting on ‘Restaurants’ I see) – so far, banned from this forum by order of The Fat Controller because this Redperson is far too intelligent for us Izzeters except for maybe Streak and would prove a formidable opponent.

  • #5995

    bluevalentine
    Participant


    “This is for me the essence of true romance
    Sharing the things we know and love with those of our kind
    Libations, sensations that stagger the mind”
    (Deacon Blues)


    Isn’t that why we’re here?

  • #5996

    Alphonso
    Participant

    bellboy, could be that Dougie is employed by DC or has shares in the MUEN, or thinks it’s really good?!

    No surely not the latter.

    Rather nice of old Vallers to admit to being a tad squiffy when he posted that. I’m rather the same, I have a distressing habit of telling the truth when I’m sozzled!! Gets me into trouble it does!!

    Your turn bellers!

    Alph

  • #5997

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hey BlueVal, Steely Dan, one of my very fave bands. Donald Fagen was a genius and Becker no slouch.

    Are you familiar with ‘Ozark Mountain Daredevils’?
    ‘It’ll Shine when it Shines’ is an anthem kiddo!!

    Alph

  • #5998

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Yer ’tis boyo!
    Well, I like it!

    (Steve Cash / John Dillon)
    It’ll Shine When It Shines, 1974

    ______________________________________________________________________

    Lyrics
    ______________________________________________________________________

    (GUITAR INTRO)

    the old cat on the roof
    he could stand a little push
    ’cause he’s got nine good lives to live
    but like my momma said
    you only live till you’re dead
    and you got to give and give and give

    there’s a pebble in the pond
    goin’ on and on,
    makin’ waves and tides and ripples and rings
    there’s a leaf in the wind
    that don’t know where to end
    chasin’ days and ways and wishes and dreams

    seems like ev’ry one
    is out lookin’ for the sun
    singin’ rain and pain on he who hesitates
    but it’ll shine when it shines
    you might think I’m wastin’ time
    but I’m just a good old boy that’s learned to wait

    whippoorwill’s in the dawn
    pretty soon, he’ll be gone
    and he’s got one good song to sing
    but like my daddy said,
    it’s in your heart, not your head
    and you got to sing and sing and sing

    there’s a window in the wall
    lookin’ out on it all
    leavin’ fears and tears and troubles alone
    there’s a fire in the stove
    keepin’ out the cold,
    warmin’ wine and winters and babies and homes

    seems like ev’ry one
    is out lookin’ for the sun
    singin’ rain and pain on he who hesitates
    but it’ll shine when it shines
    you might think I’m wastin’ time
    but I’m just a good old boy that’s learned to wait

    yes, I’m just a good old boy that’s learned to wait

    Exits howlin’ to the moon (stage left)

    Alph the Ageing Hippy

  • #5999

    bell boy
    Participant

    My Turn , to do what ? Confess or get Drunk .Tell you what i confess i’ll be getting drunk later on Today .
    Does the MEN usualy update posts on Saturdays ? nothing seems to be happening today.

    Alph i seem to remember that Dougie kind of put us “on Trust ” to behave .I suppose some of the stuff we got up to could have reflected on him ,and he thought “stuff this ,why should i take the rap for you”.Which i could understand but if it was me i’d have handed out a few warnings beforehand and made a point of letting everyone know in no uncertain terms why it was done ,before i shut it down .
    Maybe it just broke and he couldn’t be bothered to fix it .Conspiracy Theories are always more fun than the truth .

    I know the Chorus to “reeling in the years” but that aside you old Steelers are on yer own .

    hoping for 0-2 or 0-1 Today. Still dreading the prospect of it all going wrong again .

  • #6000

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    I think it will be tight today. Coleman seems to like to play it canny, despite having Horsey and Rigormortis in there. Except they need three points. So if we score first it could open the door to a few – lets say 2 up at half time and an early intro of the juveniles for a 1-4.
    As the alcohol drains from my system, so the optimism returns, if not to barrowesque proportions.

    My point about Neggy being on the bench (which no-one picked up on) seems to have been reinforced by his M-O-M and 2 goals for the stiffs v Barcodes. Will we see him on for Sibs, late doors?

  • #6001

    iomblue
    Participant

    I’ve actualy invested some of my hard earned on us this afternoon. It’s not often I’m that confident but I have no doubt about this afternoons result.

    I agree with the theory that the old izzet simply broke and they couldn’t be bothered to fix it. You can’t get in trouble for ‘avin a larff.

  • #6002

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    I think iom is right, given the background. What happened was this. A few years ago Doug decided to take BV into the Rivals network. At first this looked like a good deal but latterly there were problems. The Rivals sites were all infested with pop-ups, many of which couldn’t be blocked by regular blockers. Most serious, the server for Rivals was very slow and using the message board became pretty difficult. Eventually the mass of posters all seceded and set up their own breakaway board – BV3 -which is still going. Doug set up BV1 to try and keep the forum/discussion board going on a different server while leaving the news reports etc on the Rivals one. He also very kindly set up a dedicated forum for us. Trouble is, nobody much used the main forum as the old BV posters all stayed on BV3 or went to Bluemoon’s site. So effectively the new site hadn’t done what it was intended to and you couldn’t expect it to keep on going just for us, so when there was a serious server problem it didn’t get fixed. That’s my take anyway.

    I stumbled into this thread because I liked the comment option on BV. After a while I cottoned on and stopped posting to other threads. I like it, the quality of discussion is good and I like the format which allows for a continuing conversation over time. I do go to other boards but I always pop in here. I have some ideas about how to publicise us but haven’t thought them out yet, I’ll put them up later.

    I also think we can do Fulham today, give them a good cottaging in fact. Be interesting to see the selection, I do think the Negster will get a run out as a foward before term end.

  • #6003

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Team selection is:

    James
    Onouha
    Distin
    Dunne
    Jordan
    Reyna
    Barton
    Bosvelt
    Musampa
    Sibierski
    Fowler

    Bench

    Weaver
    WP times 2
    Mills
    Thatcher

    Croft doesn’t even make the bench – I am surprised. Looks like SWP may get a run out later. I also would not have started Sibbs. Macken is still injured apparently.

  • #6004

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Besides the perceptiveness of the footy (at least City) analysis I also like this thread for its anarchic spirit and irreverence. And I’ve learned a lot about intellectual topics like obscure Sci-Fi, TV totty and cross-dressing; also culinary stuff like the most aerodynamically efficient way to lob a meat pie at the ref and how to avoid food poisoning at away matches.
    Gee, I suppose I’m a more rounded person since I stumbled (sob!) across Izzet.

  • #6005

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    From the team selection it looks like “quick strike then hang on for a point”
    or
    “Consolidate 0-0 first 60 then bring the WPs on to run at them”
    Well, it’s options of a sort.
    The team that finishes the 90 will be maybe more interesting than the one that starts.

  • #6006

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Just got back from an unscheduled liquid lunch break, they’re the best kind! Met an old pal and there you go! Just sozzled back in to find that we’ve just gone 1 up. Opportunity created by Robbie, turned into gold by Sibs and tapped in by Reyna if the report is to be believed. Sibs could make two and score a hat trick and those **** ***** on the MUEN threads would still find nothing good to say about him!

    Hic

    Alph

  • #6007

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Ended up as a 1-1, which is what I would have predicted given the team selection. We went for bell boy’s dreaded “chicken” which I don’t see the point of if Fowler is to be the lone striker – that formation needs both the striker and advanced midfielder to be quick or the striker to be a big target man who can hold the ball up. It sounded a very scrappy, poor quality game. Barton was outstanding in the first half, not quite as good but still good in the second half. I gather their goal was controversial (missed that and Fred Eyre’s comments didn’t enlighten me) but a draw sounded like a fair result. SP took Fowler off and replaced him with SWP, which was strange for me, I’d have taken Sibierski off and put SWP in his normal position and had Reyna move into the advanced position. Then he took Kiki off and brought on BWP which again was a strange move at that stage of the game since it left us with nobody at all on the left. All part of the learning/discovery curve I guess.

  • #6008

    iomblue
    Participant

    That’s all very well Streaky, but what about my money?

  • #6009

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Guys, Guys, I’m back and so is Izzet. Go over and have a look!!!!!.

    Don’t know what’s happened. Logged on to see what you lot had been up to and Blend had found out first.

    It’s back. Could be a DC trap to flush us out but the old Izzet forum is up again.

    Where are we going to reside ?. I await my instructions.

    I remain

    Berkozex (Hero of Telemark)

  • #6010

    Blend
    Participant

    Hey everyone, I’ve just got back from the delightful Istrian peninsular.
    Didn’t start off well, I met the Bora on my arrival, with 178 Kmph winds, the stongest ever in Trieste.
    But plenty Pinot Grigio and Pinot Bianco was consumed, along with Steak Tartare, Monkfish, Languistines etc etc, oh the joys of being a student with no common sense, but if anyone wants to know anything about Trieste’s and Istria’s political history and architectural significance, I’m your man! God i’m interesting.

    Anyway, good win against Liverpool last week, and shame about today, but four points out of the last two games is no mean defeat.

    Attempted as much as possible to catch up, but you guys are quite prolific! Even if we have a stagnant population…. 😀

    I quickly cheched blueview when I got back to see if it was on, and initially it wasn’t. clicked refresh about 10 mins later and boom, there it was…..maybe we will be able to get through to the others now. Either way we need to get hold of Dougie to find out what is going on.

    Anyway, i’m off to watch MOTD (should be quite good from the impression I got from radio 5 on my way back from Stansted)

    Holla

    Blend

  • #6011

    Blend
    Participant

    Oh and have to add, the sea bass…………………..oh the sea bass.
    Divine :p

  • #6012

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Something a bit fishy about your last two posts Blend … 😀

  • #6013

    Blend
    Participant

    U.C.P.? BV, enlighten me

    Blend

  • #6014

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Hello Mr Blend,

    Bloodaxe here, an old friend of BlueV.

    Ah fond memories of the UCP. Didn’t UCP stand for United Cattle Products? No doubt BlueV will ask Ernie for clarification/cofirmation.

    http://www.images.manchester.gov.uk/web/objects/common/webmedia.php?irn=1858

    Lovley milkshakes in the Cafe on the first floor; piles of various species of tripe and other bits that you no longer see, like cow heals (although I’ve never liked cows wearing stilletos), in the shop on the ground floor.

    Blooders

  • #6015

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Blooders. I tried that link ASAP incase BVal got there first and zapped it. All that happened was a sign scrolled up saying

    ‘got your number you pervert, you’ll be on the register tomorrow’.

    Whats all that about?

    Alph

  • #6016

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Zapped unread. But not, it seems early enough to save Alph from the 3am knock on the door by the boys in blue.
    Erik Bloodaxe – I think an explanation is needed.

    Blend – the UCP was indeed a tripe shop and cafe purveying same – I’d forgotten about the great milkshakes.
    You were accredited this status for your insufferably denigrating remarks about the skiing potential (or lack of it) of certain members of this site. I think Alph, Streak, Bellers and me would be heroes on the piste!

  • #6017

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Indeed Vallers, in my youth I was a famed hero on the piste! I never could get the hang of skiing tho’!

    As for poor old Erik, I was only joking BlueVal, he’d posted a picture of Bambi for a laugh!

    If you send Jenner’s commando unit down to Les Landes to sort him out, can you get him to return via Gascony and pick me up a stone of magret and a couple of cases of Armagnac Larresingle. The Hors d’age will do but I hear that the 1934 is drinking well?

    Alph

  • #6018

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Nice one, Alph. You had me fooled there, although one can’t be too careful with this web thingy.
    Apologies to Erik!
    I’ve spoken to a couple of people who were at the game. They reckoned we had the better of it but, as usual, couldn’t poke the ball in the net a second time to kill the game. Both goals looked a touch iffy on telly, so maybe a fair result
    Mind you, Sibs must have been reading what I’d said about his heading deteriorating..

  • #6019

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    ‘Twas just a piccy of someone playing football that’s all.
    Totaly innocent photo, Ok it did have a word on it refering to a nuaghty part of the body but it wasn’t a rude word, just anatomically correct.

    Bloody Yahoo, everything is obscene to them.

    Sorry about the 3am knock Alph (and of course to the fragrant MR Alph) but that’s what happens when you live in a country with ‘Thought Police.’

    Watched Brazil on Friday night, no not the football team, the film by Terry Gilliam, very astute prediction of what has come to pass in the UK. All a bit of a Tuttle/Buttle situation on the whole.

    Humble apologies all round.

    Bloodaxe.

    PS: BlueV, I can email you the pic direct if you want to judge the content for yourself? Or are you too afraid of the Thought Police coming round, knocking severn shades out of you and making you admit to false sexual repressions?

  • #6020

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Dammit! With everyone being nice to each other, does that mean I wont be getting the magret and armagnac?

    Alph

  • #6021

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Rant N° 1

    All I managed to see were the 3 1/2 mins on MotD and it wouldn’t be fair to judge the whole match just on the whims of an editor.

    Having read around the interweb thingy and listening to the post match analysis on GMR (with Fred Ayre from Blackley, as keeps reminding everybody!) the whole Fowler /SWP thing did appear odd. Let’s hope that it can be put down to a small lapse in concentration from SP; he has stated that he wanted to win all his matches, well don’t we all, but this kind of manouvre is not going to help the cause.

    Perhaps he forgot to take his anti-psychosis pills yesterday? Or perhaps he didn’t?

    Rant N° 2

    Bloody Premier Leauge/Sky/Gods knows who.

    Living in the back end of beyond the beyond but with a broadband connection I can get GMR via a long pipe from Oxford Rd to Bourg St Maurice but as soon as the match starts I get some dopey tart telling me to sod off as the match is copywrited.

    Sorry no punctuation in the above BUT this is a genuine rant, it’s enough to make me as mad as the local valley inbreads.

  • #6022

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Glad to have got that off my chest, I’m off out to wallow around in some Champagne for the afternoon.

    Champagne Powder snow that is, 45cm fell overnight so going to be off piste for the next few hours. Their is some sort of minor match on the telly this pm but it involves the rags and the Barcodes, so not worth staying in to watch.

  • #6023

    bell boy
    Participant

    Gentlemen .
    I have had a thought ,feel free to dismiss it (as you usualy do)
    With the rebirth of IZZET we now have an option .
    We can retain this place as a “secret” Base of operations (strictly by invitation only ).Which gives us the chance, if we want , to open up Izzet a little.
    We can either post an open Invitation on MEN or preferably send Alph’s rescue Huey in for a selected few .
    Obviously we can include any of the “Lost” who find their way back to Izzet into our inner circle .Then invite others who we approve of from Izzet ,as and when .
    This has the double benefit of bringing in new blood ,while at the same time alowing us to run any Covert op’s from here .

    If this is a bit too “secret tree house club” for you ,i will fully understand .I haven’t really thought it through as yet ,so any Input gratefully received .

  • #6024

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Originally posted by Erik Bloodaxe
    Glad to have got that off my chest, I’m off out to wallow around in some Champagne for the afternoon.

    Champagne Powder snow* that is,

    Prefer the real stuff. Milady has gone off to Wexford/Cork/Skibbereen on a mixture of work and pleasure so I mgiht open my last bottle of La Grand Annee and toast absent friends.

    Can’t make up my mind about this arvo. I think the sweetest option would be a Man U win followed by a humiliation at the hands of The Arse in the final.

    * or is this a synonym for a ritzy French version of Colombian marching powder?

    Re the “Move Back to Izzet” scenario I just wanted to say I don’t mind in the least what’s decided. You can stay on forkncork for as long as you want, and welcome.

    Knowing my vebmeisters as I do forkncork is probably more crash proof. Izzet is certainly more hi-vis, liberally festooned as it is with chicken-and-stars motifs and “superb for the proles” mottos. If I was to put any MCFC crest on here, I’m afraid it would be the good ole Corpo “ship”!

    Bell boy’s suggestion has some merit. Maybe we should for our less complex brethren separate the footy and the philosophy. And keep this, as he says as a base for covert ops (and also if Izzet totalled again we know where we can find one another).

    The choice (or not, in fact) is yours. I’ll happily go with the flow.

  • #6025

    bell boy
    Participant

    Um, eerr , not quite sure how to phrase this .
    How does mentioning this sites name on Izzet ,equate to keeping it secret and seperate from Izzet ?
    If we chose to now go down that route ,you could end up having to block “infiltrators “
    No wonder Berko is in charge of “black op’s”

    Perhaps a minor edit might be in order …soonest .
    “bell boys room” should clue up those in the know ,but mean nothing to the unitiated .

  • #6026

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Ooops yer. Some covert operator me!
    I shall edit forthwith. Hopefully Alph will do likewise and anyone else who mentioned
    “bung and bifurcation”

  • #6027

    bell boy
    Participant

    Just had a quick scan ,looks like there is one other offender …guess who ,yup Berko .mind you that was previous to it being made an official secret .
    Oh bugger ! Tubs was at it too .
    It looks like our bag is catless ,it may not be too late as few will have found Izzet is alive again as yet .I’ll put a little note up just in case .

  • #6028

    bluemoon
    Participant

    Yep it’s back on about time. Is James a big girls blouse or what he’s 6’4″+ and must be 16st and he gets flattened like that, any centre forward or some big and daft centre half who dare challenge him in the pen/6yrd box should be flattened, and he wants to be back in the Eng team he’s avin a Giraffe (laugh).

  • #6029

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    At the risk of sounding like little Mo – wossgowinon????

    I am making an Executive decision and reverting back to Izzet for the mainstream stuff as of now. I want to keep my booking in the boathouse open though so that we can get together here for the covert stuff or maybe just use it as a weekend retreat.

    I’m going over the border back to Izzetville now and will resume there.

    Thank you for your excellent hospitality. Look forward to visiting again very soon

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #6030

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Can I come and play in your old den?
    I promise not to be naughty (said with fingers crossed behind back).

  • #6031

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Originally posted by Erik Bloodaxe
    Can I come and play in your old den?

    try Izzet forum

  • #6032

    Jensen
    Participant

    Before I leave, for pastures new
    and speaking for the izzet few
    I must say that it’s been just great
    so here’s to Ernie, our good mate!

    Now Berko bubbled and Alph cried out
    Bellers groaned and I did shout
    We thought we would forever roam
    ’til Ernie made his place our own.

    So thanks go out to good old Ern
    He’s done us such a friendly turn

    Before I fly to Izzet’s nest
    I need to get things off my chest
    You see Dear Ern, it’s not a quip
    to say that “fork’s” a lighter ship
    for having Izzeters aboard
    has somewhat lightened your ships hoard
    It seems that during extra time
    Dear Berko has been ‘at the wine’
    Now Tubi’s frame, to our dismay
    is somewhat larger for the stay.
    I’m sorry to break this bad news
    (I helped myself to crisps and brews)
    but once you’ve checked your stock my friend
    send your bill to Leeds (care of Blend).

    Jensen

  • #6033

    Alphonso
    Participant

    He can afford it Jenners!

    He’s got my wallet again!!

    Alph

    PS
    One of the great thing about F’n’C is the email prompt when someone posts. Now that we are keeping Ern’s pad as a ‘home from home’ that will be a real boon.

  • #6034

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Hmmmm. Just checking the cleaners had been in.

  • #6035

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Don’t worry, I’m arround everyday or so. Making sure that Ernie does not sublet the space to any of Kylie’s Hoofers, Shirtists or incompetent sooth sayers.
    Mind you, I’m having a bit of a ‘Domestic’ with our landlord on the Heston Blumenthal thread, so I might be persona non grata quite soon chez F’n’C.

  • #6036

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi Ernie

    I am off to Loutro for a couple of weeks 3-17th May taking ‘senior management’ and her aged mother.

    Any messages to be born to anyone? Shall I give Alison a hug from you?

    I will eat the ‘goat stiffado’ and those splendid cakes from (name escapes me) will swim at Phoenix and Sweetwater Bay, will get even fatter, and will engage with you on my return.

    If you would like a ‘ Loutro comparative Taverna’s article’ or any other contribution for your esteemed website, let me know. If I make a real efort, I can still write English proper like you know, isn’t it boyo!

    Alph

  • #6037

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Lucky lucky.
    We were almost going back this year. However Ann’s sister has bought a house on an isle called Bratch or Bracs or Brac or summat, so we’re off there for a week from 20th May.
    If the food is crap might go to Bologna for the second week. Or possibly to Montenegro which everyone says is beautiful but I bet the food is still crap.
    Love to Alison and the lady in the cake shop (Maria?)
    Eat plenty of goat for me.

  • #6038

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Montenegro is lovely but avoid the massive concrete soviet hotels where the food i s very definitely crap!

    Will eat goat for England and yes it is Maria’s cakes!

    Have a great time

    A

  • #6039

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Presume the Loutro you’re going to is the one on Crete?

    It’s been 4 years to long since my last visit to Crete, the last time I was based in Paleochoria, a bit Hippy and less laid back than Loutro.

    If you are mobile and /or find yourself in Hania (Chania, Xania, depending on who printed the map) get yerself to Faka, behind the old arsenal.
    It was the best restaurant Greek I’ve ever eaten in and I lived in Greece for 14 months (two summers). Very traditional, not many tourists, loads of locals, quite often Bazouki band but not the tourist crap – more like a folk night down at your local.

    I can still remember the last supper I had:

    Char grilled squid and octopus.

    Spit roast shoulder of lamb with garlic and thyme.

    The obligatory salad.

    Real Greek (sheeps milk) yoghurt with honey.

    Fresh fruit.

    Nothing special about the above, just your usual stuff for that part of the world but just so well done AND not expensive.

    If I wasn’t living where I am, I would probably be living in Greece.

    Have a great holiday and I’m very jealous.

    Bloodaxe.

  • #6040

    Alphonso
    Participant

    The very same Loutro Erik. Have taken the details of the restaurant and will ‘feed’ back later!!

    Ta

    Alph

  • #6041

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Using Ern’s pages coz it sends out a message alert on email!

    I have one spare ticket for todays match tel: 07813111162 if you can use it (meet at Gate A2 at 2pm).

    Alph

  • #6042

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    The Balloon’s gone up in Izzet again so I’ve retired to the Bunker at the Val-erna guest house.

    Hope most of you saw it coming and made it out before the baying hounds of DC caught the scent. I’m sure I heard the sounds of Ernie ‘n Bernie’s size 12s crunching up the gravel with the same ruthlessness as they crunch up their grammar as I legged it out of the back door.

    Look forward to seeing you all soon.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #6043

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Phew!

    Home safe!

    I can see ‘two eyeballs in the sky’ can that be Berko?

    I can now paste and copy my last from Dougie’s pad before the crash. I’m getting good at this!

    Quote:

    Sage words eh Berko? The currant crop! It must be thyme to cumin!

    I see that Charlton and Pompey are supposedly in for Thatcher. Well, if he wants away I suppose we might as well break a habit of a lifetime and make a profit on a player but I hope he stays. Roberto Carlos he aint, but he is sound. One of the few things we have been able to be enthusiastic about as we approach the start of the season is the efficiency of our first choice back four and the relative quality of the defensive support players.

    Reading the Pearce interview I was expecting Joey to be away from the club for some weeks and then lo & behold, he plays last night for the reserves?

    If he is to be absent from the opening few games, who do we see in that position? Sun is suspended for 3 games, and in any event still looks a million miles short of match fitness. Reyna seems to have nailed down the ‘midfield sweeper’ role so who sits in the hole behind the strikers and does the ‘creating’ bit? Is it time to be somewhat daring?

    A fit Fowler could do the job, probably brilliantly, feeding Cole and BWP (or the barn door Brummie). Sinclair could maybe do it, leaving opportunity for Flood or Croft out wide on the right? A more risky strategy would be to play Ireland or Flood, as the creative force, both of whom have impressed in pre-season. Still, this is the Premiership, the real thing and dropped home points against the Throstles doesn’t bear imagining! There is alot at stake here.

    I suppose the ‘safe’ route would be to play Sibs there if he is now fully fit. It is his favoured position and IMO has been 6/10 in effectiveness and 9/10 in effort and commitment since getting a regular first team start last season. This season I had been hoping to see us start with a smaller but better quality squad. I was expecting Sibs, like Sun, to be a utility player destined to see more time on the bench than the field of play.

    What are your thoughts?

    UnQuote

    (Haven’t got my head around formatting over here yet!

    Alph

  • #6044

    TUBI
    Participant

    I caught some shrapnel in the back on the way out, but dont worry, i’ll be fine.

    I dont know about you lot, but i think if this messageboard was an actual place, it’d be a log cabin in the middle of nowhere, elephant guns hung on the wall and a great big fireplace with a picture of vallers stood over a dead deer hung above it.

    ……Just me then?

  • #6045

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Morning, lads, and welcome. Chuck another log on the fire.
    Tubs, you clearly haven’t seen me shoot – total record 1 hare, 2 pheasants in about 2,500 rounds! We’d all starve, mate. Someone else can shoot the deer, I’ll turn it into venison and cook it.

    I see Sourness and the Barcodes have fallen on their arse again.
    And Glasgow Septic didn’t make it either so all the office rags, most of whom claim dual nationality, are a bit subdued.

    I’m coming round to Alph’s idea of playing Fowler as a midfielder. He’s savvy enough and might even enjoy it. Would he be prepared to track back, though?

    SP seems to be toying with the idea of buying another CB as cover, so doesn’t look as though he has much faith in Sleepy and maybe means Ned won’t be back as soon as we thought. I thought SP may have nabbed Stubbs on a one year when he was available. Whatever, I hope he doesn’t blow the rest of his fund on a CB and leave nothing for that crafty midfielder we need.

  • #6046

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    …and no sooner have you spoken Valers, does SP put a £4m bid in for that bloke from Fulham who was in the Avengers, Steed whatisname.

    25yr old creative Frenchie with 38 goals in 4 seasons from MF. This would be the ideal signing and despite the intial bid being rejected reports suggest that SP is intent on the pursuit.

    So that’s that then. He’s off to Spurs or ‘boro.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #6047

    TUBI
    Participant

    And no sooner have we settled down to a nice hare and pheastant stew, does Izzet get back up and running again

  • #6048

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Is it me only or is anyone else having difficulty posting on Izzet?

    I can enter the site and log in, type a message but I get a ‘fatal error’ message when I submit.

    Alph

  • #6049

    Jensen
    Participant

    Yeah, me too Alph. Looks like the good ship Izzet’s cargo bay is full to bursting. Have you tried contacting Dougie? Let me know, as I think I’ve got some contacts for him lying around.

    Jenners.

  • #6050

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Yo Jenners,

    That’s the great thing about BlueVals lifeboat, it sends out a message in a bottle for all good men to come to the aid of the party!

    I have emailed Dougie at his last live address and will do so via the Blueview site too.

    Hopefully we wont have to lose the whole back catalogue, there was some great poetry in there!

    Alph

  • #6051

    Alphonso
    Participant

    (Being a smug b**tard I saved my last post incase it crashed again and yer tis)

    I agree bellers. Weaver should go out on loan until Christmas and then we’ll find out if he can still do the job at a decent level and has learned to kick properly. Then we can make a sensible decision on whether to keep him or bin him.

    Psycho will go for the same side that started on Sunday, more’s the pity.

    I think there is a strong case for putting out a side that includes the experienced pros who are currently on the fringe of the first team along with no more than three of the young guns.

    A few more injuries like that of Cole and Sinclair and we will be needing these players to be fit and ready. There is also a need to avoid over playing key players like Reyna, Distin, Barton, Dunne, Cole, Vassell and avoid playing Mills altogether! We have a very important game this coming weekend.

    I’d go with:

    De Vlieger,
    Sun, Onuoha, Sommeil, Jordan
    Croft, Sibierski, Ireland, Musampa
    Fowler, BWP

    Bench: Weaver, Distin, Barton, Richards, Vassell

    That side cannot be criticised as being a bunch of kids. The seven ‘bought’ players cost us £18m and if it isn’t able to defeat a team that’s bottom of the 3rd level of English football then someone isn’t paying attention.

    Alph

  • #6052

    Alphonso
    Participant

    It’s half time at 0-0

    Isn’t 1.5 games long enough for Psycho to discover that you dont score goals and win games if you have no strikers on the field or am I being picky?

    Alph

  • #6053

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Well, looky who’s here! Welcome back guys. They are playing extra time as I write, had a meeting so didn’t see any of it, perhaps as well.
    If SP ever tunes into Izzet will he note my mantra – “strikers who don’t strike aren’t strikers”

  • #6054

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Poor diisplay by City and even worse from the Referee. The sending off of Ned was a shocker and so was the penalty against Distin.

    Still, if you dont score your chances against a side 2 divs below you, you get what you deserve and that’s nowt.

    Croftie looked OK and so did Ireland although the latter tired and faded. Sun was out of sorts in all four positions he played and Reyna just looked weary! The back four looked solid.

    Where was Fowler and BWP, it seems to me that we had a squad of 16 with NO BL**DY STRIKERS IN IT and Croftie the only attacking option on the bench!

    Sorry Stu but you have to hold your hand up that was crap and it started with the team selection.

    Alph

  • #6055

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Crickey fellas, balloons gone up on the Izzet High Street again!!! Perhaps the latest critique of Hincey and co. at DC finally caused the evil ones to let slip the dogs of war.

    You know what ? I’m totally unfazed by last night and strangely untroubled. At 0-0 and with us dominating the game I couldn’t see how we were going to score and foresaw penalties and ultimate dissappontment (sorry Bellers I’m reading your lines). I hate the shapelessness of our side without the FEC, Ireland looked okay but little more, Hussein appears not to have a left foot and despite a robust defence from Streaky a few days ago Sibbers poses no threat whatsoever. Croft was lively and penetrative and must surely start against Toon as the more sensible option to the ubiquitous yet ineffectual Sun.

    Yes, our back 4 was rock solid and it amused me to think that had he stayed on Ned would probably have been the MOTM.

    The need for a striking option was patent and despite injuries to Cole and BWP, SP went into the game with 2 CBs on the bench – against bloody Doncaster. Surely there should have been a spot for Miller or perhaps the gaffer thought that there was enough on the pitch with what he had. This game will have laid bare the true paucity of striking options and therefore scoring outlets that he has at his disposal in the current squad.

    Finally I would implore our coaching staff to get someone in to work on our set pieces. The delivery is consistantly awful and totally wasteful. Even our opponents last night served up better crosses than us.

    Thanks again for the safehouse Valers.

    I remain

    Berkozex

  • #6056

    bluevalentine
    Participant

    Greetings from KL
    Can anyone who reads this please put the izzet/Uwe link on this thread as Google Malaysia seems to have difficulty finding it.
    Currently in the Golden Club Lounge, fortyfying myself on Campari against malaria, the pissy down weather and the next flight while Paul Rankin (lucky bugger) is getting mobbed by cute Malasian trolley dollies who simply love his way with a skillet.
    Just watched ‘Drew’s goals and United’s pathetic performance against Lille on Jungle TV soin holiday mode even more
    Next stop Adelaide.
    Best, cheers,
    Blueval

  • #6057

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Here you go:

    http://www.blueview1.co.uk/forum/

    All the best

    Bloodaxe

  • #6058

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Just saying hello for old times sake. Dusting off the old cutlery just incase we have to dive for the shelter again!

    Have you been out in the boat yet Vallers? Its been one gale after the last on LochAlph and about all I have managed so far is to sit and look at my old girl!

    It is 3ft from the water line to the deck and I have yet to work out how to get my fat carcass aboard. The aluminium ladder I have bought looks a little flimsy! Still with a 9ft beam (the boat that is) at least she should be uncapsizeable!

    Alph

    PS
    Google ads duly clicked upon!
    One of them was Bernard ruddy Matthews Vallers!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • #6059

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    It’s a trifle chilly down here in the shelter but I’m burning some old copies of The Manchester Guardian to heat the place up while waiting for Alphonso to arrive with a black market chicken.

    Anyone else having trouble loading Blueview, I’ve not been able to get on for two days?

    ps Alph, with the benefit of hindsight I had to laught at the post above. Talk about ‘famous last words’ !

  • #6060

    Blend
    Participant

    It’s ok Ernie, I’m here with some blankets a bottle of meths and some old copies of Razzle. That should keep you going until the paramedics get here.

  • #6061

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Crumbs Vallers!
    Famous last words indeed!!
    Problem sorted though, I never had to get on the ruddy thing!!

    Alph

  • #6062

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Vallers

    You are missing in action, hopefully NOT presumed killed.

    Are you still having problems linking to Izzet? I have to say it isn’t quite the same without that tad of ascerbic wit!

    We will be in Scotland(Kilmichael Glen, Lochgilphead, Argyll) from mid July to end of August if you fancy a sojourn in the highlands. loads of room and a great kitchen. We can fight over who doesn’t cook 🙂

    Alph

  • #6063

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Alph,

    Cap.t Dunkirk is well and truly overdue, when do we start the search and rescue?

    Or is he doing some very dangerous black op’s behind enemy lines at the MUEN and COMS?

    Bloodaxe

  • #6064

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Ah oui mon ami!

    I was feeling perplexed when I received your email. Perplexed seemed happy with the arrangement!

    I will despatch Jens Ensleft from his undercover mission in Thailand tout sweet or even sweeter!

    Will keep you informed.

    Alph

  • #6065

    Blend
    Participant

    Hmmmm,
    Blueview seems to be down, anyone else having problems…..?

    Blend

  • #6066

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi Blend

    Yes, I’ve just tried to log on and the site is definitely down. It was OK last night around 7 coz I posted a reply to Berko and Jase.

    I’ll see if I can email Dougie, it works sometimes! In the meantime it’s ‘good old Ernie’ to the rescue!!

    Izzet finds itself back in deepest cover.
    It’s all a bit like ‘Foundation and Empire’
    back in my youthful ‘Azimov’ days!!

    Alph

  • #6067

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Morning Alph,

    I published a reply after yours – circa 8.15
    Anyhow welcome to the draughty barracks. I’ve sent the cleaners in to do a quick scrub up and polish before General Berko arrives.

  • #6068

    Blend
    Participant

    OK, I have been in to blueview at various points in the day absolutely fine. Now, as soon as I get home, the site appear to have been put up for sale..? What the bloody hell is going on. Lets get in contact with doug. If it costs us 75 quid or so to buy a site and get some web hosting then what the hell.

  • #6069

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi Ernie,
    Are we down again?
    I can’t get it to open.
    I’m off working this pm and then to Scotland tomorrow.
    Back Tuesday.
    Alph

  • #6070

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Sorry, false alarm
    Back in OK now but couldn’t sign on, it wouldn’t accept password
    Will reset this evening and and try again.
    By the way, WTF is going on?

    Alph (I think)

  • #6071

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    It’s probably because you are not Alph

    Alph

  • #6072

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi Ernie

    I seem to be locked out of Izzet again.
    I think it is knackered.
    I have emailed Doug to ask him to look into it.
    Can you confirm that you are out too?

    Alph

  • #6073

    Blend
    Participant

    Hey Alph, I haven’t been able to get in all day either.
    If I remember correctly we seem to have a big problem about every 1000 posts. Smoeone pointed that out before.

    By the way. A few of the guys and I have been thinking about doing some wine tasting do’s for a while. Do you think Jules would be the best person to ask….? Speak to me

    Blend

  • #6074

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Jules would be great, he’s Grande Pooh Pah of the Chevalier d’ Something or other these days up Lunnon and goodness only knows why, still holds me in some affection!

    Also, don’t forget your very own Ernie Whalley. For the cost of a ferry ticket to Dublin you could pitch a tent in his back garden and party for weeks. The man’s a legend!

    Alph

  • #6075

    bell boy
    Participant

    Gentlemen, it seems we are back in the bunker.
    Blend posted last, so i think it’s only fair that we blame him.
    The old place seems much as we left it, my room hasn’t even been dusted. That slice of Pizza i forgot about has evolved into somthing very nasty under my bed. I had to kill it with a stick.

    How long before ?
    A. The others find their way here.
    B. They figure out how to log on to post (it took me 5 minutes)
    C. HQ is fixed

    I wish Berko was here, my Stingray PJ’s could do with a wash.
    First left at the top of the stairs if you want to drop in for a chat.

    Just an afterthought. If any of you are hanging around and can’t remember how to log in. Click on reply, that will take you to a log in page (can you remember your old password?)

  • #6076

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Just got off the Holyhead – Dun Laoghaire ferry and I can say that the standard of pork pie served is woefully inadequate.

    Bloodaxe

  • #6077

    Alphonso
    Participant

    A bellers, that was what I could smell, I thought it was Blenda’s sox!

    It’s interesting to see that we are now being linked with octogenarian goallies (still hope for us then, Balfers) and ageing South American midfielders.
    The undoubted fact that Frank looks to be in pretty deep sticky brown stuff rather than the verge of getting his cash back appears to be restraining the clubs buying power. My understanding is that the Thai judiciary is not playing their part the way it was scripted. The same judiciary that slavishly followed the instructions of the establishment approved but un-elected and illegal Military Junta, now freed from inconvenient restraints, have found their righteous indignation at the expense of the new Government and their pal Frankie. With one of his top allies debarred from office for 5 years for buying votes and the election winning Party again threatened with disbanding and removal from office (apparently over exhuberant campaigning is a more heinious crime than stealing the entire political structure at the point of a bayonet which it seems is OK) .

    Poor old Frank!
    Poor old Thailand!

    As for City, we need to hope that Jo’s been paid for, we haven’t got a daft overdraft and all of those youngsters Svennis signed are as good as he hoped coz they might have to deliver this season 🙂

    Good news perhaps for our young Academy graduates, some of whom will get a chance if all Sparkie can get in before the window closes is a few old contemptibles. In particular Kelvin’s usefullness on the RMF, Vlad Impailer’s skills wide on either side, Ched and Daniel’s promise up front, Ben Mee’s left footed prowess at LB or LCB and Shaleum’s versatility at LB or LMF would seem to be a fit for the biggest numerical weaknesses we have.

    It could be worse, we might have signed Ronnie and been bankrupted by the pie and dental bills.

    Alph

  • #6078

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Welcome to the gastro nissen hut/land based aircraft carrier once more.
    Until General Berko gets here I have, as senior ranking officer, allotted duties as follows:

    Aphonso – quartermaster
    Bellers – communications & technology
    Bloodaxe – weapons, with special responsibility for the super missile codename NUKEOT currently under development
    Blend – latrines and procurement – if it is a long posting we may need a substantial supply of WACs, WRENS and WAFs

    yrs

    Captain Dunkirk, RN Resumed

  • #6079

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Not much movement is there? Not that there’s much anywhere else.

    Ben Haim? Well, might be useful if the Haifa match is a goer, local knowledge and all that.

  • #6080

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Lucas bloody Neill!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    If that cheating ruddy Oz pulls on the sacred blue shirt I’ll puke to be sure!

    Is the Axeman sharing Chez Ernest at present?

    I rather suspected that his appearance on an Irish Ferry snarfing a pork pie whilst attempting to look sufficiently abnormal to blend in, bode ill for your liver.

    If so I have to say the ‘dark lady of your dreams’ is a saint almost the equal of Mrs Alph who if I understand the latest Visa Statement, is approaching ‘beatification’ with an enthusiasm I didn’t see coming!

    Who the hell is Coco Channels anyway?

    A

  • #6081

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Curious, haven’t heard from Blooders.
    I presume he’s been/is here on a stag do and knows that, for me, Temple Bar is a no-no.
    Mind you I’ve been down in God’s Own County, playing shit golf most of the week.

  • #6082

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Following some stunning detective work from the young subaltern Blenda ap Fonz, I have exchanged emails with Doug Bennett and expect all to be oK soon. He had popped into the G&P and thought it was all OK but I pointed out that it is until one tries to log in.

    The man’s a legend and I’m pretty sure we’ll soon be able to pack away the K rations and get back to a pint and a packet of scratching in the Snug.

    Alph

  • #6083

    Blend
    Participant

    A lot of talk on the old Diniho front http://www.skysports.com/story/0,19528,11679_3818030,00.html

    Looks like things will happen this week. Clearly if we have put the official bid in, all of the sponsorship etc will have been sorted.

    Interesting times

  • #6084

    bell boy
    Participant

    Well i emailed him using the “send error report to administrator” service and pasted in the error message. Of course, as there was an error he might not have got it. I also PM’d Berko but he’s not turned up so maybe it’s all banjaxed.

    Funny the mixed response to Dinho. I am a bit stunned by the attitude of some. “If the fat waster isn’t desperate to play for us, we don’t need him” seems to be it.
    For sure we have to make sure he’s fit and at least a bit motivated but this seems more of a marketing ploy than anything else. It’s all about raising the Clubs profile. So long as the sponsors pick up the tab we might as well take the chance. That money won’t be there for anyone else.
    Just imagine if we got him and he was anywhere near his best for a couple of years.

  • #6085

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Just done a quick calculation and if the Ronnie deal isn’t being paid for by the sponsors, Frank is going to have to fork out 149,446,000,000 Baht for him.

    That is some ‘telephone’ size number but if Frankie dose get his wedge back it will be the small change out of the gazillions of Baht coming back to him.

    Bloodaxe

    P.S. Honorable mention in dispatches for Alphonso Boracic for actions beyond the call of duty in coming to the aid of a fellow member of the regiment.
    Thanks mate!

  • #6086

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Crickey!!! That was hard work. Duped the guards at the gate with my joke accent, got the better of the sentrys with my outrageous disguise and heaved my ample frame through the labyrinth of tunnels. (Thank the lord that they were dug with Alph in mind!) Then failed at the final hurdle when I discovered that the passwords were all case sensitive – bugger.

    Anyway I will await news of our prospective return to the G&P with anticipation.

    I note in footie news that MarksenSparks is considering Weiss and Mee as potential options for the 1st XI. Apparently Cassell has been anxious to move his skipper to LB for a while as he is all left foot with pace and Weiss seems to have shown enough to suggest that he could evolve as our RW outlet.

    Blimey if these 2 come good Cassell should be offered the freedom of the city of Bangkok which is more than Burt Kwouk seems to be able to look forward to.

    I remain

    Berko.

  • #6087

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    The gospel According to Yosser

    “We’ll continue to look at the balance of the squad, but on the initial viewings, the make up of it and the cover that we have in certain areas seems in little bit light.

    “I would imagine there would be a number of changes – I can’t tell you exactly what they will be at this moment in time – but we’re looking though and we’ll always be looking to improve the quality that we have.”

    So presumably an enforcer and a left back will be in at the very least?

    How will we accommodate Ronnie and Elano? Will Ronnie play on the right of midfield? Looks like Irish will have to go some to keep his place

  • #6088

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Originally posted by bell boy
    Well i emailed him using the “send error report to administrator” service and pasted in the error message. Of course, as there was an error he might not have got it. I also PM’d Berko but he’s not turned up so maybe it’s all banjaxed.

    Funny the mixed response to Dinho. I am a bit stunned by the attitude of some. “If the fat waster isn’t desperate to play for us, we don’t need him” seems to be it.
    For sure we have to make sure he’s fit and at least a bit motivated but this seems more of a marketing ploy than anything else. It’s all about raising the Clubs profile. So long as the sponsors pick up the tab we might as well take the chance. That money won’t be there for anyone else.
    Just imagine if we got him and he was anywhere near his best for a couple of years.

    I have to agree with you on the Dinho front bellers but I have reservations if the amount of cash being splashed on him leaves Sparky without funds for other than the likes of Lucas Bloody Neill and Bradley (where’s me bus pass) Friedl.

    As a marketing coup it would be fantastic for all the reasons you mention and I’d love to see the GTW in a City shirt. The ‘Muddlesbugger on a cold drizzly Tuesday night in February’, argument is crass bollox IMHO. Sit him in the stand with a nice Arctic goose down City warmer, a hot water bottle and a cup of cocoa or better still leave him at home! We need him on the pitch when the suns shining and the pitches are hard and fast. 40 points by Christmas is always a nice way to start the season and then let him hibernate until April 🙂

    As for Dougie, we have exchanged emails and although I haven’t heard from him since yesterday I am quietly confident. The lads a legend.

    Alph

  • #6089

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Originally posted by Berkozboy

    Crickey!!!

    I note in footie news that MarksenSparks is considering Weiss and Mee as potential options for the 1st XI. Apparently Cassell has been anxious to move his skipper to LB for a while as he is all left foot with pace and Weiss seems to have shown enough to suggest that he could evolve as our RW outlet.

    Blimey if these 2 come good Cassell should be offered the freedom of the city of Bangkok which is more than Burt Kwouk seems to be able to look forward to.

    I remain

    Berko.

    Crickey indeed Berko 🙂

    I cannot fault your Blimmey either 🙂

    Bugger Bangkok, I suspect that any sort of freedom including ‘House Arrest’ will look good to our Frank by the time the Thai Establishment and ‘unfettered’ Judiciary have finished with him!

    The more important question and something of a moral dilemma, is, does the General Staff mobilise the Izzet Special Forces on a ‘Where Eagles Dare’ mission to free a dodgy politician, even if he is OUR dodgy politician?

    Provided he’s paid for Jo and Ronnie and last season’s purchases, paid off Bear Sterns and the overdraft, leaving a few millions in the kitty to tie us over until he’s done his porridge, I’d tend to vote no, but then I’m a man of principle 🙂

    Alph

  • #6090

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Originally posted by Ernie Whalley

    How will we accommodate Ronnie and Elano? Will Ronnie play on the right of midfield? Looks like Irish will have to go some to keep his place

    I can’t see any Premier League manager, let alone Sparky, playing Petrov, Elano and Ronaldhino in the same lineup unless we’re 3 up with 20mins to go!

    As for Irish, he should be smacking his lips in anticipation. He’s only a child still and in 2 years time Ronnie will be gone and Elano too probably. If he keeps making progress every season as he has in the past 3 years, he will be top drawer by the time he’s 24.

    I do hope that Weiss and Mee get opportunities . Logan, Miller, Evans and Etuhu all got 3 year contracts last season but Miller has gone and the other three have not featured at City even though all three have had very successful loan spells down a level. It just is not possible to gauge how a young player will perform at a higher level unless he gets played there.

    I have seen enough of Mee to think that he is that genuine rarity, a quality left footed defender, brave, good in the air and a born leader. Weiss is the sort of player who could be outstanding if he is, or can become, tough enough physically and mentally to play in this league. He’s probably the most naturally gifted and pacey controller of the ball since SWP and could be as good as him. Sturridge is a different animal but then strikers are like goallies in that respect, they’re always different!

    Alph

  • #6091

    bell boy
    Participant

    We all of a sudden now appear to be favourites to sign Dinho. I’m guessing that will be, favoured by Barca, rather than the man himself. We may never know the full in’s and out’s of his proposed mega deal but it seems that it may well be a pay as you play deal and largely financed by Nike etc. How much of the fee will be met by City is an issue but the real question is, how much revenue will the player generate for us? I don’t see a lot of His shirts walking around but supposedly he sells shedloads around the world. Will it be enough to pay for him? will we be able to meet the demand if it’s there?
    Then there is the little matter of how will he play?

    Alph if you and Doug are now B.F.F would you consider asking him about the pictures? has he disabled the direct upload or has it faulted?

  • #6092

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Just a quick thought Valers.

    Have you ever canvassed your regular pie ‘n mashers to assess their view on the occasional interlopers to this site.

    It occurs to me that as the residents of the G&P are want to comment on matters scoffy and quaffy from time to time so may the gastronomites be tempted to air their view on matters blue.

    …or are we a cooked a little rare for their tastes?

    I remain

    Berko.

  • #6093

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Originally posted by Berkozboy
    Just a quick thought Valers.

    Have you ever canvassed your regular pie ‘n mashers to assess their view on the occasional interlopers to this site.

    It occurs to me that as the residents of the G&P are want to comment on matters scoffy and quaffy from time to time so may the gastronomites be tempted to air their view on matters blue.

    …or are we a cooked a little rare for their tastes?

    I remain

    Berko.

    No, we like things bleu

  • #6094

    bell boy
    Participant

    Looks like Sam has joined Celtic then. I wonder how much for?
    I know he never really seemed to show the spirit or enthusiasm needed to strike in the Prem but i can’t help feeling that we somehow missed out on this one. He has the ability, we just needed someone to light a fire under him.

  • #6095

    Blend
    Participant

    We paid too much for him and the pressure of the fee and the fans got to him. It wouldn’t surprise me if he was decent up there and then moved on to a decent team in a more competative league.

    I imagine we got around £2m for him. Not great, but better than nothing.

    Good luck to him, he wasn’t wholly to blame for his lack of success.

    Blend

  • #6096

    bell boy
    Participant

    I mostly agree, he never came to terms with expectations and the service wasn’t great but he was waiting for things to happen instead of trying to make things happen. My enduring image is of him in a good position waiting for the ball to reach him but it never does as the defender moves to meet the ball. Someone should have been able to get him to do the same and get there first.

  • #6097

    Calgary Blue
    Participant

    Blimey ! What happened there? I go away for a while and when I get back the whole place has fallen apart and we’re back in Val’s gaff. Thanks for the hospitality Ernie.

    Alph – in your guise as chief communicator, have the rest of the chaps (and chapesses – CBG’ers) been directed to t’emerald isle for the duration?

  • #6098

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    I think Sam is made for Scotland where everything is pretty snailpaced and there are loads of weak teams.
    I never thought much of him as a striker. He always looked better when he dropped back a bit, quite a good passer of the ball.
    In the end, he was only a kid and bought at a time when we needed someone to step up and do a man’s job, either by runnning things or by knocking ’em in.
    Seems like a decent lad, who had a poor deal and I wish him well.

  • #6099

    Blend
    Participant

    Well, Ronnie has gone to Barca, no surprise there. It would have been great, but I suppose at least we have £25m to splash elsewhere.

    On another note, this is an article by Sid Lowe of the Guardian.
    What an absolute Rag prick this bloke is.

    “”How Barcelona wish they could turn the clock back,” Lowe wrote, reporting Barca’s botched sale.

    “Rarely has a club made such a mess of selling its greatest asset and they have dealt with Samuel Eto’o little better. So bad have their tactics been that City’s approach actually stood a chance.

    “Though he was twice Fifa’s world player of the year, Ronaldinho’s only real suitor for a time was a club that has not won anything since 1976. That is the level at which Barça pitched him – and they would have been delighted to accept City’s £25.5m bid. The 28-year-old was reluctant to have his future decided for him but feared he might have to go to City. He waited for another club to ride in and rescue him and Milan, at long last, have done so.

    “City stood alone, glimpsing an opportunity handed to them by a club who had turned an auction at Sotheby’s into a clearance sale at Poundland. Yesterday Milan ended City’s dream but it, like Ronaldinho, was good while it lasted. How Barcelona wish they could turn the clock back,” Lowe wrote, reporting Barca’s botched sale.

  • #6100

    bell boy
    Participant

    There was an article on the BBC site about what a terrible mistake it would be for City to waste a fortune on an injury prone has been with a bad attitude. This was re-enforced by the argument that no-one else wanted him. Now he’s gone to Milan it will probably be heralded as a masterstroke.
    Sure Dinho has to prove himself all over again but i’d bet on him to do it.
    Has this saga done us any harm? are we really a laughing stock?
    I don’t think so, we have failed in a bold attempt to sign a major star who chose to go instead to one of the worlds biggest clubs.
    I think it’s the right choice for him and maybe it was a bit of a risk for us too.
    Now we just have to hope that we don’t get Bellamy either. I was shocked at us being linked with him. We’ve just got rid of one thug, why would we pay for another?

  • #6101

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    I wouldn’t bet on Ronnie making it. How many rehabilitated party animals can you think of in the world of football? Not a lot. Add in his injury prone track record and Milan are taking a massive gamble in ‘on the pitch’ terms. What you might call the results risk.
    Sure he’ll put bums on seats as he would have done at Eastlands and I was in favour of signing him for that reason alone. Overall, the financialrisk wasn’t huge when you take into account his pulling power.
    And, if there wasn’t a fair chance of getting dolly on the boat, surely you’d have had Manure, Chelski, Real, possibly Spuds and Juve in there too?

    The article Blenders alluded to is, of course, yet another Rag sniping job but there’s no denying that, given our track record over the last 30 years, we’d have to stick several sheets of paper over the cracks to convince Ronnie he was coming to a potential top club.
    And okay, so Maradonna went to unfashionable Napoli and the boys done good. But Ronnie, for me, doesn’t look cut from the same cloth so the ‘Join and we’ll build a team around you’ maybe wouldn’t have the same appeal.

    Pity, in a way. But I’m not weeping buckets. Now let’s find another playmaker and a really good midfield enforcer for our 25 mill and hope Ben Mee cuts it at LB. Onwards and upwards.

  • #6102

    Blend
    Participant
  • #6103

    bell boy
    Participant

    Looks like we’ve sent the big guns to the Faroes. Nearly a full strength squad. If the line up on the MEN is to be believed, only Boj and Fernie are missing and of the youngsters only Evans is included.
    What can we read into this?

  • #6104

    Blend
    Participant

    Hughes want his players to get fit and used to playing with each other…?

    Blend

  • #6105

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Boj has a thigh strain

    Shows Yosser is not pissing about. Also that he wants to find out, rapid like, what his best team is.

  • #6106

    bell boy
    Participant

    I don’t think he’ll learn anything good about his better players in a game like this. For them it’s a turn up, get it over with and bugger off game. It would mean a lot more to some of the youngsters.
    If Bianchi scores 6 it won’t mean he can do the same in the Prem and similarly he won’t be useless should he fail to score at all.
    I suppose the togetherness thing counts for something and it’s another step towards match fitness but it shouldn’t take our first 11 to win this one.

  • #6107

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Originally posted by bell boy
    I don’t think he’ll learn anything good about his better players in a game like this. For them it’s a turn up, get it over with and bugger off game. It would mean a lot more to some of the youngsters.
    If Bianchi scores 6 it won’t mean he can do the same in the Prem and similarly he won’t be useless should he fail to score at all.
    I suppose the togetherness thing counts for something and it’s another step towards match fitness but it shouldn’t take our first 11 to win this one.

    According to the Super Soaraway Sun the side will be:

    MANCHESTER CITY : Hart, Onuoha, Richards, Dunne, Ball; Vassell, Hamann, Johnson, Petrov; Bianchi, Jo.

    Not a bad side one would think?

    It would be nice to think that Roly might get a couple and then Ched be given a half hour to wet his appetite!

    Still, these games are banana skins waiting to happen eh Axeman 🙂

    A jammy one nil then 🙂

    Alph

  • #6108

    bell boy
    Participant

    That looks like a guess. It’s pretty much Svens team, minus those who played in the Summer, plus Jo but played in a 4-4-2.
    Good news for Vass & Bianchi, if true.
    I’d have liked to see Logan, Evans and Etuhu given a go myself.

  • #6109

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I’ve exchanged email with Mrs Dougie (The Legend himself is curently abroad on business). Nicola, for indeed that is her name, says the Great Man will sort it out on his return.

    4 nil to City tonight. 2 for Vassel, 1 each for Petrov and Micah.

    Strikers?

    Who needs ’em?!

    Alph

  • #6110

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Wasn’t it the Faroes that scored the fastest ever goal against Ingerlund in some international qualifier? I vaguely remember them nicking the ball off us from the kick off and slotting home.

    We went onto score about 6 but in conceding we ended up missing out on another tourney.

    I reckon we’ll score 6 tonight with the red tops still berating us claiming the piric victory for the plucky Puffin botherers of Craggy Island.

    I remain

    Berko.

  • #6111

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    I want to see what Roly can do with a decent striker to feed off him

    meanwhile http://www.goal.com/en/Articolo.aspx?ContenutoId=780231

  • #6112

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Originally posted by Alphonso
    Still, these games are banana skins waiting to happen eh Axeman 🙂

    A jammy one nil then 🙂

    Alph,

    Let’s just hope that there aren’t any gaping manholes on the pitch.*

    I’m guessing that your ‘jammy one nil’ is for the Herring Harriers?

    Bloodaxe.

    * awaiting a Franky Howerd style, “oo er, no misses, listen,” style reply from Bellers.

  • #6113

    Blend
    Participant

    http://www.justin.tv/widgets/jtv_live.r7790.swf?channel=mwb67

    Best link of the game. 2-0 up so far. Great goal by Hamman!!!!

    Blend

  • #6114

    Blend
    Participant

    That was San Mario Berko.

    By the way, who’s this prick on the commentary. He just said, “I’m not a big fan of Hart, he’s got a lot to learn.” How braindead is this guy…?

    Blend

  • #6115

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Can’t seem to get the link to load. Takes forever and I get fed up and start fiddling.
    Anyhow, why isn’t Roly not even on the bench? Does that mean somebody’s made an offer or has Yosser no confidence in him?

  • #6116

    Blend
    Participant

    http://myp2p.eu/broadcast.php?matchid=15165&part=sports

    go here, there are lots of links to different streams.

    not sure about Roly…?

    Blend

  • #6117

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Originally posted by Blend
    That was San Mario Berko.

    By the way, who’s this prick on the commentary. He just said, “I’m not a big fan of Hart, he’s got a lot to learn.” How braindead is this guy…?

    Blend

    I recognised the voice but couldnt put a name to him. Other gems from him were,

    ‘Onuoha is a good athlete but is technically poor, he can’t pass the ball’

    also,

    ‘Johnson isn’t quick but is technically excellent’
    (immediately after this Jonners released an inch perfect pass and accelerated past the defenders into the box like Arkle!

    and,

    ‘Hamman hardly ever strays into the opposition half these days, he controls thing from infront of his full backs.’

    ‘Oh dear, a dreadful mis-directed pass from Hamman’

    ‘What a cracking volley, he used the outside of his foot, or inside I think, anyway great goal from Hamman’

    Alph

  • #6118

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Wasn’t our old mate Andy Gray was it?

    Anyhow, job done. No ‘old City’ banana skin slip-ups. No-one injured. Another step towards match fitness. And a few clues for Hues.

    Hell of a programme, though. Another 18 games, half a season, if we are going to win this thing.

    I saw Hapoel got through. And Hajduk Split – quite fancy that. My sister-in-law has a place in Bac, just across the bay.

  • #6119

    bell boy
    Participant

    I didn’t see anything other than Didi’s (collectors item) Goal.
    Sounds like it was a fairly uneventful game.
    It seems Vass has stepped into the Sun role of whipping boy. He got hammered by the DC Boarders even though the report said he forced 2 saves had a 3rd effort deflected away and supplied the pass for the opener.

    Good news if there are no injuries, i think all concerned will take the return leg a little more seriously and try to put on a show.
    No mention of what happened to Rolly so far.
    Did we play Vass alongside Jo or was he wide right of a 5 man MF it’s not been made clear in what i read.

  • #6120

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    The rumours are increasing that we are going to sign Tall Ben Haymes.
    Come on Berko, any gen from the rubber gefilte fish circuit?

  • #6121

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Originally posted by bell boy
    I didn’t see anything other than Didi’s (collectors item) Goal.
    Sounds like it was a fairly uneventful game.
    It seems Vass has stepped into the Sun role of whipping boy. He got hammered by the DC Boarders even though the report said he forced 2 saves had a 3rd effort deflected away and supplied the pass for the opener.

    Good news if there are no injuries, i think all concerned will take the return leg a little more seriously and try to put on a show.
    No mention of what happened to Rolly so far.
    Did we play Vass alongside Jo or was he wide right of a 5 man MF it’s not been made clear in what i read.

    I thought Vaz had a very decent game; hardly a masterclass but deffo not worthy of a slagging off.

    Don’t know about Roly but Vaz was playing all over the place mainly as striker with Jo doing more of a support striker role. Jo’s role was more ‘Elano’ than ‘Benjani’ .

    Irish was nominally the wide right player and plied his trade right side but tended to be more the RH of a mid fleld three than a wide right if you get the picture. I don’t know if it was the photography but he looked alot more physical than he did last season and pour moi had a very decent game with some excellent through passing.

    All in all it was a competent run out, nothing more. Jo didn’t look to be anything special but it’s early days and he’s very young. It will take time to recover from that Russian cuisine eh Vallers so I’ll make allowances. One header he made was classy.

    Eeeee Vallers lad, I’m getting to grips with ee’s toys ont site.
    Its fun!

    Alph

    PS
    When did I get the Michelin Star boyo?
    I’m delighted and much gratified.
    It’s only right that Michelin Man
    should have a Michelin Star 🙂

  • #6122

    Berkozboy
    Participant

    Valers, The Fashnoggie Bugle (aka The Jewish Telegraph) today carrys a short piece in what is laughingly called the sports section.

    Wedged in between a report on the Prestwich Synagogue Bridge Tournment and the King David Junior School Girls U12s netball results a source close to the Ben Haim camp suggests he will sign a 4 year deal with us on Monday.

    Bearing in mind this is a paper that holds Uri Geller out as one of our greatest living sportsmen and you can take from this story what you wish.

    Shabbat Shalom

    I remain

    Berko.

  • #6123

    Blend
    Participant

    Guy’s, Doug has done a sterling job and recreated the site. It looks great.

    He suggests that we create a new topic, so I have obliged.
    I think that for the longevity of the site, we probably create a new topic every 1000 posts or so.

    I have duely created ‘uwe Rostler Mk2’

    http://blueview1.co.uk/smf/index.php?topic=2536.msg15057#new

    Enjoy 🙂

    Vallers, as usual, thank for the soup-kitchen.

    Blend

  • #6124

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Very nice but do we all have to follow your idosyncratic spelling of ‘Rosler’!?

  • #6125

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Originally posted by Ernie Whalley
    Very nice but do we all have to follow your idosyncratic spelling of ‘Rosler’!?

    I did my best Vallers, really I did, but the material I was working with wasn’t uniformly good as one might have expected from the immediate gene pool which spawned him. He didn’t seem to get any of the spelling, listening, remembering, studying hard, closing outside doors, turning off lights, cleaning up after himself or missing other cars on the road when driving genes.

    I do not feel compensated by his considerable excess of genes responsible for partying, wallet, key and mobile losing even if he does 🙂

    I wonder if we can change ‘Oovay Rosstlur’ to a spelling more likely to attract visitors from ‘googling’ or nobody will ever find us 🙂

    Here’s the exchange of emails with Doug


    Andy, I’ve set this up for you …

    http://blueview1.co.uk/smf/index.php

    the old board died but I managed to salvage the posts. Hope this is OK for you.

    Cheers,

    Doug


    You are a star Doug.
    I think we owe you a beer or many 🙂
    Your seats are booked for the mini-bus to Haifa!

    Alph/Andy

    Book the seats Berko!

    Alph

  • #6126

    Blend
    Participant

    Oh piss off you two

  • #6127

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi Valers,

    I can’t access the Blueview Izzet site this morning.
    Is this the same for you or am I in isolation here?
    If the site has crashed I’ll get on to Dougie.

    Alph

  • #6128

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    I posted earlier, no bother

  • #6129

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Is it my pooter or has Izzett gone tits up again?
    Come in Alphonso, Blend, Blooders, Berko, Belers, Jace etc

  • #6130

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Mon Cher Capitaine,

    Looks like Izett has gone down faster than the Rags credit rating.

    Any chance of a decent pint of Guinness that hasn’t had the taste frozen out of it whilst we have our annual sojourn over here?

    Bloodaxe

    P.S. Will you be doing the catering and if so what will be on the menu?

  • #6131

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Axeman,

    Can you give me your house number. I have the rest. I want to send something to you. I sent you a PM on Izzett but chances are it may be out for a bit and I wanted to get this to you tappy-lappy as our Barcoded friends say.

    The G and Beamish taps are being installed as I speak. Catering is on hold until the new Bonnet range is connected up and Berko’s cousin from the kashrut division of the Beth Din gets here to inspect and approve. Thereafter, the world’s first virtual kosher fusion * (VKF) gastro pub will be launched in spectacular fashion with free pints and 3 bags of Kosher Tikka Masala Pork Scratchings on production of an Izzett membership card.

    * copyright Bluevalentine

  • #6132

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    BV

    PM’ed

    EB

  • #6133

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Great week. Scummers forced to remortgage, Bin Dippers dumped out of FA Cup, Appy Arry arraigned on 2 charges of tax diddling. Only needs Martin O’Neill to get caught shagging Randy Lerner’s missus.

  • #6134

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Is anyone there?

    I’m lost and lonely………….

    Alph

  • #6135

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I’m in the process of finding the email list that I have and I will email this thread to them.

    I have emailed Doug and asked him if he is able to rescue us.

    I suppose this means that Jenners will disappear into the wilds of the Swiss border for another year or two!

    Dammit!

    Alph

  • #6136

    Blend
    Participant

    Guys, I found an old izzet list from my email archive and have sent a message with this link. Hopefully Doug can sort it out and hey, I may even have some of the old izzeters in my list. It is from 2005 I think!

    Blend

  • #6137

    Alphonso
    Participant

    I’ve emailed 23 current and a few absent friends with this link Blenders.
    All efforts appreciated folks
    Manners and Khamers are the two most noticeable missing persons from my list, but I could have missed others.

    Alph

  • #6138

    bluealf
    Participant

    Well get the Ginger ale’s in lads 😀

  • #6139

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Hi, I just got the email from Blend and it prompted me to pop up again. I’m over in Virginia at the moment, came over in September and will certainly be here till this coming September, possibly longer. Still got the season tickets though and have found a bar near me that shows all the ‘soccer’ as the locals call it. So I’m still getting to see a fair bit. I was back in the UK for ten days over Christmas/New Year and saw the three games over that period. The Sunderland game was an exciting one but rather in the way a white water raft ride is and I was not surprised when I heard right after the end that Sparky had got the push. You could have used a video of the defending by the two sides in that game as a training exercise on “How Not to Defend”.

    Things are looking exciting now I must say, what with the Scousers imploding and signs that the Evil Empire is about to collapse. I expect to see Ferguson on the TV soon talking about how he’s just rolled up all of the team’s debts into one loan with an easily manageable repayment from Ocean Finance.

  • #6140

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Streakers, by the sainted Kinky’s left foot! Good to hear from you. Truly as one door closes another opens or something like that.

    With just over a fortnight to go to the end of the transfer window there’s not much activity is there? Doesn’t look like Alph’s man from FC Rubikcube is arriving. And there’s a snippet about that Italian geezer who got a brace against us a few years back, for Brum was it?
    Can I ask if there was one player to be added to the current squad, who would you guys want???

  • #6141

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    just remembered his name’s Zagato, Zarate or something similar and I think he’s Argentinian, so bring him on.

  • #6142

    bluealf
    Participant

    Essien for me Vallers, I would also say a good left back but I cant think of one :rolleyes:

    Welcome back Streakers, I hope you pop back on the new site when Doug sorts us out once more.

  • #6143

    bluealf
    Participant

    Zarate sounds right, he looked a triky if somewhat lightweight winger, who is suggesting we want him btw ?

  • #6144

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Sky News. Mauro Zarate, Lazio. He got 4 in 14 in a short loan at Brum. Two against us.
    Played as RW/RM – we alreday have Petrov, SWP and Weiss queuing up to play there, doesn’t seem to make much sense does it?

  • #6145

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    in this window, on the basis that the manager seems to be doing pretty well with what he has and (more importantly) the January window is pretty much a waste of time anyway, unless you want an emergency purchase. A month or so ago I thought we probably did but now I think better to hold on till the summer.

  • #6146

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant
  • #6147

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Mon Cher Capitaine,

    The Rags must be getting really hard up if they have to use a second hand dish cloth for the launch of a £500m disaster appeal fund, eh?

    Bloodaxe

    P.S. On the subject of signings…I’d take Ronaldo any time……. and then play him in the reserves. 😀

  • #6148

    Blend
    Participant

    Looks like not such a bad outcome on the Sturridge deal. Provided he lives up to the potential…

    http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/151801/Manchester-City-get-a-rise-out-of-Daniel-Sturridge?

    Good to have you back Streaky! When’s the next opportunity for some high quality tandoori? You have a real talent for that 🙂 Hope that the U S of A is treating you well!

    Blend

  • #6149

    Alphonso
    Participant

    Hi Streaky

    Good to see you’re still with us.
    How about a quick update on your life at present and I second Blenders request for a repeat of the best Indian food ever.
    I’ll never forget the stock 🙂

    Here’s a wee larf for you guys & gals (and still no resonse from Doug as yet)

    http://www.stretford-end.com/blog/2010/01/sheringham-united-miss-tevez/comment-page-1/#comment-49619

    Alph

  • #6150

    Blend
    Participant

    Barcelona hero…am I missing something…

    Blend

  • #6151

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Blenda,

    Didn’t Sheringham play Manuel in Fawlty Towers?

    Oh no; I just remembered that was Andrew Sachs, funny I always get those two mixed up. Mind you, good to see I’m not the only one as Stretty Rant appears to have the same problem.

    Bloodaxe

    P.S. Nice to see a Rag’s fan reminiscing about players over a decade ago, still it will be good practice for the future. 🙂

  • #6152

    bluealf
    Participant

    @blend wrote:

    Barcelona hero…am I missing something…

    Blend

    I’m guessing it refers to the 2-1 injury time Champs league final victory over Bayern held at Barcelona’s ground.
    😡

  • #6153

    Erik Bloodaxe
    Participant

    Just had a thought chaps and chapettes (don’t thing CGB and Bellette have ever taken the Holyhead ferry yet?).

    As much as we appreciate the the generous hospitality of Cap.t Dunkirk, I can’t help thinking some of the more regular diners in here might be put off by Alph’s rather loud laugh, Berko trying to flog those dodgy Cheetham Hill knock-offs that he arrives with, Blend being sick in the ladies (again) and Bellers complaints about the smell of the French cheese.

    So as a second bolt hole and possibly more reliant way of keeping the dominoes and crib league going when Doug forgets to put another shilling in the meter would it be a good idea to put up a blackboard in the McDonalds* round the corner?

    Bloodaxe

    * set up a private group on Facebook, slumming it I know but I’m sure one of the more youthful or youth-like members should be able to set one up? Even if to point some of those without a SatNav in the right direction?

  • #6154

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    One for Blenders, this:-
    In the Grauniad article and elsewhere much is being made of the fact that the Swamp Aid bond may be less attractive, even unavailable to traditional investors because it is not ‘rated’. What’s the story? What is ‘rating’? Why is it a bond that’s unrated is unattractive? Why is Swamp Aid not rated?

  • #6155

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    For some reason I’m not allowed to log in in my real name!!!
    “Bluevalentine does not have sufficient privileges”
    This is my site, for godsakes!!! Ver is der vebmeister???????????????

    Despite indications to the contrary, I remain
    Valers.

  • #6156

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    @Erik Bloodaxe wrote:

    Just had a thought chaps and chapettes (don’t thing CGB and Bellette have ever taken the Holyhead ferry yet?).

    As much as we appreciate the the generous hospitality of Cap.t Dunkirk, I can’t help thinking some of the more regular diners in here might be put off by Alph’s rather loud laugh, Berko trying to flog those dodgy Cheetham Hill knock-offs that he arrives with, Blend being sick in the ladies (again) and Bellers complaints about the smell of the French cheese.

    So as a second bolt hole and possibly more reliant way of keeping the dominoes and crib league going when Doug forgets to put another shilling in the meter would it be a good idea to put up a blackboard in the McDonalds* round the corner?

    Bloodaxe

    * set up a private group on Facebook, slumming it I know but I’m sure one of the more youthful or youth-like members should be able to set one up? Even if to point some of those without a SatNav in the right direction?

    Good idea. I am in the throes of registering a private group on facebook in the name of The Gale & Porter. Should take about 24 hours. Who knows, it could ultimately make a permanent home.

  • #6157

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Hey a realistic Rag! I found this on another site

    ” I remember my fleeting phone call to my Manchester City supporting wife the day it broke that her team had just become the richest on earth.

    “oh have they?” she said with little interest.

    See, City fans are used to having their confidence built up for it only to blow up in a dirty great big blue mess, in their faces. My missus has seen it all, so this for her was just another false dawn. Id been sat with her the day The Bitters were relegated to Division Three. I remember the tears in her eyes as i refrained myself from dropping to my knees in some sort of silent emphatic delight. It was run of the mill for her to hear of something as preposterous that City were now richer than any other..it couldn’t really be true….later that day the club bought Robinho and her ears pricked up.

    Despite this next Manchester derby ‘only’ being the Mickey Mouse Carling Beer Cup it is without doubt for me the most important derby game in memory. Not because of what is at stake..a place at Wembley. To be frank, i couldn’t give two craps about that. What is important is its significance and that its played over two legs.

    Manchester City are now officially ‘Players’.. Yeah i know they have still won sweet FA, but its clear to see that the recent change in manager has cranked things up another notch. And as we enter a transfer window in which we will never EVER be able to compete with them in, its evident that we are now the poorer brother in bank balance, but also in form on the pitch.

    With Tevez on fire, Petrov injury free and a supporting cast of impressive proportions, this derby could well be the litmus test of who goes on to dominate this next decade, from a Manchester perspective. The mess with the Glazers doesn’t help things, but there is a real feeling with fans that we are walking some sort of footballing tightrope.

    A two legged affair allows us to take away the old adage that “well you were at home..course you shoulda won” It gives you 180 minutes of aggregate scoring to see who is the best. As things stand, United lack the engine of inspiration that has carried us through choppy seas before. Confidence is an issue, and despite us still keeping possession of the ball well in a statistical capacity, its what you do with it in the last third that counts.

    So will Fergie stick with the kids? I get the feeling he might. Is it worth playing your strongest team with a mounting fixture list, the restart of the Champions league and a worrying treatment room packed to the rafters? Im sure City will go for it. A win in this competition will give them the first bit of silverware they are craving. And if they can say they’ve slayed United on the way…well, what could be better.

    Its not really in my nature to worry about things that haven’t yet happened in football. However i can see a big Blue Monster on the horizon and its sharpening its teeth. Never could any of us have imagined (and i include City fans on this) that one day we would be living out this scenario. One where a derby match was more than just bragging rights..but is a watermark on defining and shaping the future footballing landscape. Call me dramatic..but i like my football dramatic!!

    So in true supporter style..this is a call to arms. It feels like yesterday that United were the underdogs in almost every big match. And as supporters we loved it. Everytime we played Liverpool back in the day we were underdogs. Everytime we came across a European giant like Barca or Juve we were underdogs. And we would sing ‘Always Look On The Bright Side Of Life’ in their supporters faces, as we bucked the trend and ripped up the form book time after time. It was part of our fabric…before we started winning absolutely everything from 1993 onwards.

    So lets rediscover some of that! We are Manchester United. Both loved and hated in equal measures. Lets stare into the faces of our Blue neighbours and not budge an inch. Yeah, they may wipe the floor with us in this tie, but they will never ever BE US. As every gallon of oil that gets pumped out of the ground in the Middle East makes them stronger, it is our history which makes us unique. A uniqueness that money cannot buy. Roberto Mancini described us as “immortal” this week and he was one hundred percent correct.

    We’ll never die we’ll never die. We’ll keep the red flag flying high, cos Man United will never die.

    Bring it on City.”

    I feel sorry for his long-suffering wife. Suddenly the phrase “They’ll never have our history” is appearing on Rag sites with monotonous regularity. Probably because they recognise that soon they’re gonna be history.

  • #6158

    BlueStreak
    Participant

    Hi all. Well Alph has requested a report on my current situation so here goes. As you may recall, towards the end of the time when I was posting regularly I was increasingly out of the country on various jaunts. This was all work I did on the side in addition to the regular job at MMU. Over the last three years this got to the point where I was putting in almost as much time on these activities as I was the regular job, but it was all concentrated in the Summer. It got to the point where I was only at home and in the UK for the odd fleeting day for May to August. This all got a bit wearing. Thing is I enjoyed this much more than the regular job, in fact the latter was increasingly driving me nuts. I should be clear about why this was. I enjoyed the teaching as much as ever. Although the students had been getting me down a few years back, there was a big improvement in the last few years. The problem was the way my institution in particular and UK higher ed in general were going. The new VC at my place was (is) a total barbarian. His first step on taking office was to have all the Keep Quiet signs taken down in the library on the grounds that “Who can learn anything in silence?”. We were told that all of our courses had to have an ’employability quotient’. The management style increasingly came to be like the Five Year Plan.

    So when I was approached about going to work for one of the organisations I did stuff on the side for I took it. (I’d worked for them for 18 months before in the early 1990s). So I took a year’s unpaid leave, which made me hugely popular with my colleagues. (They had been told absolutely no p-t staff so were looking at a 40% increase in their teaching load). I came over here in September and I’ll be here certainly till the end of August. I may stay longer or come back, that’s not clear yet, but I definitely don’t want to simply go back to where I was before. I’m in Arlington, just over the Potomac from Washington, DC (the abode of Satan but a fun place). I’m living in an apartment at a place called Virginia Square, it’s right by the Metro which means it’s about 20 minutes into the centre of DC for me. I’m also only five minutes walk from work, so I don’t need a car which is a great relief.

    Where I am is a fun neighbourhood, it’s full of really good bars and restaurants – I can post links to some of them seeing as how this is a food and drink site. Friend of mine over here called Tyler Cowen has a pretty well known food blog (although I often disagree with him). Some of the places in DC are eye wateringly expensive but there’s lots of good cheap places as well. As I said still have the season tickets so I’ve been to games while I’m back in the UK. Over here there is a sports bar near me that does all of the football games so I get to see a lot – I had the experience of being the only City fan in the place for the derby, although I wasn’t alone as there were lots of Liverpool and Arsenal fans rooting for us. Interestingly even the rags fans thought that extra time was ridiculous.

    I’ve had a curry night soon after I arrived but you’ll have to wait till I’m back in the UK, unless someone pops over here – feel free. A couple of years ago when SP was the manager I got as disheartened about football in general and City in particular as I’d ever been. It wasn’t just the dire quality of the football (although I have to say the last six months of Pearce was the least entertaining football I have ever seen) it was the feeling that we were all stuck in a cycle that would never change. Since then though things have been going up. Shinawatra was a rogue and never put any money of his own in but he did get rid of a board and senior managers who had cocked things up completely. Alastair Mackintosh must be really good at sucking up to journalists as there’s no other possible explanation for the good press he gets. He also brought Sven in and there was a sudden and distinct improvement on the pitch, even though we got ‘found out’ in the second half of the season. (I have to say that the more time passes the better Sven’s performance as our manager looks. It’s also noticeable how players he brought in have suddenly reappeared under the new boss). I’ll never forget the summer of 2008 though when it looked for a while as though we’d be in the state Pompey are in now and then suddenly with one bound Jack was free and we’d got Robinho.

    I was very pleased when Hughes came and in many ways he did very well. I always thought though that there was something like a major refurbishment going on at City and he’d been kept on to do the prep and undercoating before someone else came in to put on the gloss. I think he was given enough time and money and firing him was the correct decision, as there was no evidence that he had any idea of how to correct the defensive problems that we had. Strange how it seems to have been done almost right away under Mancini and with half of the regular defence injured or absent. I’m surprised by that actually, becuase I never thought of Sparky’s teams as weak in that area.

    Now things are looking really good for us and also for football more generally. I know that in fact there’s a huge financial crisis at pretty much every club except ourselves, Chelsea, Spurs, Arsenal and a couple of others but the good news is I think it will force some drastic and long overdue action. In the league the boring dominance of the top four is finally going, it isn’t just us banging on the door but Spurs and Villa as well. Liverpool are clearly going down the chute and dare I say it but I think the rags are finally starting down that slope as well. Arsenal are actually in very good shape and I’d back them for the title this year (it’s not a coincidence that Wenger has a degree in economics). As for us I think the next week will really show where we are. If we stuff the rags and progress in the cup we will really have moved up to a new level and Everton is a key game in many ways, a real test. They started really badly but have some real form now and they have very dangerous players such as Cahill, Osman and Fellaini (what a monster he is btw!). Onward and upward.

    Oh, that thing about rating means that the issue hasn’t been rated by one of the agencies such as Standard and Poors or Moodys. So in other words these are junk bonds, which means that they will have to pay a premium rate of interest to attract buyers. So it is just like Ocean Finance – consolidate a load of debt into one big debt but with a much higher rate which means you pay even more in the long run. Not a good idea, no matter what Carol Vorderman says.

    Here’s a foody link.

    http://www.thelibertytavern.com/home.php

    It’s also a cougar den 😉

  • #6159

    Ernie Whalley
    Participant

    Thanks for that Streakers. I think we were all getting very disillusioned in the Pearce era. The football was truly woeful and I for one thought this was For Ever.

    I’ve set up a ‘private group’ on Face Book called The Gale & Porter. If you go on there you can see it – just do a search. To register you need to register for a Face Book account first, then ask to be admitted to the group which I, as administrator, will obviously sanction. I set it up with closed membership to avoid having to filter out Rag disruptors and fly-posters.
    Any member will be able to post, including photos (Bellers) and links

    I think it would make a good permanent home in that the Face Book servers are powerful enough not to go tits up.

    There are some disadvantages

    1. You do need a Face Book registration.

    2. We are unlikely to expand our membership by attracting ‘passers-by’.* Maybe this is not so bad as we haven’t attracted anyone new since God knows when.

    3. You have to register for facebook in a ‘real’ name, preferably your own. You can have a nickname as an ‘alternate name’. Trouble is I’ve not yet been able to find a way of including it in posts – so I am appearing as ‘Ernie Whalley’ and not ‘bluevalentine2’, my alternate (for some reason ‘bluevalentine’ was not available)

    Anyhow, the facility is there. Take a peek, decide and I